Mapping out Chocobo Dye

[LionFranco]

I expect that my next result will be Blood Red, then i will need to use the blue berries for 1 feather change and I should have Dalamud Red, which is my Goal. The next step would be to see if you can get that by doing it all at once...

I got Blood Red, and here is where i went next...

Chocobee devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
Chocobee's plumage will change in 6 hours.
Chocobee devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.(x5)
Chocobee is beginning to grow new feathers!
Chocobee's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.

I'm certain i'm going to get Dalamud Red, and my dyeing days will be complete...for now

[Snootles]

Bless your cotton socks LionFranco! That indeed is consistent with the input I'm getting from my FC mates and from the response form for my sheet. Mind you, there is still RNG involved. I mean, SE wouldn't be SE without their beloved heathen God RNGesus =P

If you are willing to reset and see if you can do it in 1 go, that'd be great. But again, RNG so you may overshoot or undershoot your goal.

[Snootles]

Current known information:

- "Plumage will change in 6 hours" does NOT indicate a colour change. (why does this text exist?)
- "Is beginning to grow new feathers!" message indicates that your chocobo will change colour. Is being called 'feather proc' by most now.
- Taking out your chocobo during the 6 hour waiting period will end the process and not result in a colour change.
- The amount of fruit is irrelevant. Feed 1 type of fruit until 'feather proc' is received. Your chocobo will then change colour.
- There is more than 1 way to get to a colour.
- There is definitely RNG involved. Your 'feather proc' can RNG (RNG feather proc?) and you can receive a colour that is either 'uncommon' or you can skip a step (when using 1 type of fruit).

I would like to know if others have come to the same conclusion. =]

[LionFranco]

Chocobee has grown a new coat of feathers!
Result - Dalamud Red

[O-Deka-K]

- "Plumage will change in 6 hours" does NOT indicate a colour change. (why does this text exist?)

This message simply indicates that the 6-hour timer has started. As you can see from the message "Chocobee's plumage will change in 5 hours and 47 minutes," the timer started with the first fruit, not after the proc.

The message is inaccurate and should definitely be changed. I can't think of what it can be changed to though. Sometimes you get the proc on the first fruit, so it has to make sense if that happens. Maybe it's best just to remove the message, since it already tells you the time remaining after you get the proc anyway.

I would like to know if others have come to the same conclusion. =]

I agree with your theory and not the color-threshold theory.

[Snootles]

Chocobee has grown a new coat of feathers!
Result - Dalamud Red

As predicted and thankfully RNG didn't mess it up for ya!

This message simply indicates that the 6-hour timer has started. As you can see from the message "Chocobee's plumage will change in 5 hours and 47 minutes," the timer started with the first fruit, not after the proc.

(@.#)

That was right infront of my nose and I never realised that -THAT- is what this message indicates. Sheesh... Let me go put on the dunce cap and sit in a corner XD
Thanks for your input!

[Oniguro]

I'm posting this message here as well for anyone that can use it:

I'm aiming for Ink blue.
With advice from my wife I will feed my choco till it gives the "begins growing new feathers" message.

Here is the log of what happened to me so far:
(the numbers below are the times the proc activated before I waited 6 hours)
Desert Yellow > Berries > 1 > Cork Brown
Cork Brown > Berries > 1 > Ul Brown
Ul Brown > Berries > 4 > Shale Brown
Shale Brown > Berries > 4 > Lavender Blue
Lavender Blue > Berries > 3 > Othard Blue
Othard Blue > Apple > 2 > Plum Purple

I didn't see that last one coming since it wasn't on the list.
Just now I fed it berries till I saw the proc pop 3 times, hopefully this will land me on Royal Blue, after which I'm going to feed it Apples till it procs 2 times, which will then land me on Rolanberry Red I hope.

If anyone has got a better plan, I'm all ears. (In fact, if you have a better plan I'll take you to a planet where everyone is all ears.)

[Snootles]

An update on my progress!
Started out with Default Chocobo. Half of the FC named their Chocobos Steve, so we shall call him thusly.

Desert Yellow - Berries -> feather proc -> Cork Brown - Berries -> feather proc -> Ul Brown - Berries -> feather proc -> Gobbiebag Brown - Berries -> feather proc ->
Aldgoat Brown - Berries -> feather proc -> Shale Brown - Berries -> feather proc -> Goobbue Grey - Berries -> feather proc -> NOTHING - Berries ->Lavender Blue - Berries -> Awaiting results

More people have gotten an RNG bust on a feather proc it seems. This is my theory behind it anyway.
It stands to reason that when you have an RNG feather proc that skips ahead, that you would have an RNG bust feather proc.

[Snootles]

Information and theories so far:

Current known information:
1) "Plumage will change in 6 hours" ONLY indicates that the 6 hour timer has started. It does NOT mean your chocobo will change colour
2) "Is beginning to grow new feathers!" message indicates that your chocobo will change colour. Is being called 'feather proc' by most now.
3) Taking out your chocobo during the 6 hour waiting period will end the process and not result in a colour change
4) The amount of fruit is irrelevant. Feed 1 type of fruit until 'feather proc' is received. Your chocobo will then change colour.
5) There is more than 1 way to get to a colour.
6) There is definitely RNG involved. Your 'feather proc' can RNG (RNG feather proc?) and you can receive a colour that is either 'uncommon'
or you can skip a step (when using 1 type of fruit).
7) Mass feeding fruits and counting feather procs seems to be more and more of a bad idea. It seems you can keep getting a lot of feather procs but it caps and you won't end up where you want to be.

Speculation:
1) Stable condition may influence amount of fruit needed - Does not seem to be the case so far
2) Mixing fruits is not needed. It takes an x amount of 1 type of fruit, until feather proc is received, to get to a colour.
3) Resetting with Han Lemon may cause some variables when you go back to using 1 type of fruit. One anomaly encountered so far
4) Theories about colour loops are showing up - This may be due to RNG feather procs?
5) 'Rare' colours start to show up in a fruits colour-tree. For example, Lilac Purple in the O'Ghomorro Berry group and Mesa Red in Xelphatol Apples. Is more RNG feather proc?
6) Amount of fruits vary somewhat. Not sure what threshold there is to get the proper 'beginning to grow new feathers!' message for a colour change
7) 'Deepening fruit will decrease the RGB value. ''Lightening fruit will increase the RGB value. Mainly apply this to the colour you are looking for. This is an estimate.
8) Does the RNG feather proc also make you 'skip' to a colour normally received from another type of fruit? But still stays within in the same range to go down
the normal line. Example: Default -> Doman plum -> Cream Yellow -> Doman Plum -> Sylph Green.
9) Colours (or colour range) obtained from fruits are presets with an element of RNG. Yes, presets are based on RGB but they are still presets.
10) In following #9, the further colours are from each other the more fruit it might take to get to the next one in line?
11) Mass feeding fruits and counting feather procs seems to be more and more of a bad idea. It seems you can keep getting a lot of feather procs but it and
you won't end up where you want to be.
12) If there is an RNG feather proc that makes you skip ahead, then it wouls stand to reason that there's an RNG bust feather proc. Maybe an RNG feather proc
that sets you back a step?

Thoughts?

[Desidious]

Guess I'll give you a little info on where I'm at.

Desert Yellow -> fed an assload of pears with multiple feather messages (was new at feeding)
Lime Green -> fed more pears until 3 messages
Apple Green -> fed berries until message
Cactuar Green -> fed berries until feathers message
Torquoise Green -> fed berries until feathers message
Peacock Blue -> fed berries until feathers message
Othard Blue -> ?

No idea where I want to go from here. I like this color.