Really low SP from fights

[thesinecura]

After looking through the forum, I figured this would be the best place to post this.

Ever since patch 1.18 came out, I really started to play the game, leveling my gladiator (main class), which is now currently rank 25. However, compared to all my other classes, I have been receiving significantly low SP gains during fights. Even during levequests, I would say my average gain of SP would be about 70 per enemy, give or take the level of it. I feel as if the fatigue system is still in place, because if I play any other class, which are all about 10 ranks lower, I receive 200-400 SP, even when I'm not doing a leve.

Does anyone know what the problem is, or is anyone else experiencing this?

[Furyan]

In my experience that's just the leveling curve of this game. At low level/rank the sp/exp gain is really high.
And as you rank up it becomes less unless you kill things which are about 5 ranks higher than yourself.
My suggestion would be to go to Ul'dah and shout/seek for a party. In a party I find you can get a decent 500sp/kill
from mobs which are about 10 ranks higher than yourself.

[lynex]

I was trying to find another thread that was talking about solo play and how bad leves were. But a few people said its about how fast you finish a leve now not how many stars. You get about 2k a leve and if you do all 6 leves that's not bad. I'm
a 35 pug and I just did this last night and was happy with what I was getting. Fighting only got me 100 exp per kill but as long
as I finished the leve in 10 mins I get the bonus exp for finishing the leve.

[MrSmiley]

Grinding solo outside of leves just gets worse. I prefer parties, and would prefer they stay the best way to level, but its kinda annoying that both the required sp go up, and sp mobs gives go down. I feel like it shouldn't do both, at least to the extent that it does.

[VydarrTyr]

After looking through the forum, I figured this would be the best place to post this.

Ever since patch 1.18 came out, I really started to play the game, leveling my gladiator (main class), which is now currently rank 25. However, compared to all my other classes, I have been receiving significantly low SP gains during fights. Even during levequests, I would say my average gain of SP would be about 70 per enemy, give or take the level of it. I feel as if the fatigue system is still in place, because if I play any other class, which are all about 10 ranks lower, I receive 200-400 SP, even when I'm not doing a leve.

Does anyone know what the problem is, or is anyone else experiencing this?

There are a couple of factors at play here.

1) The higher the level of the mob, the more SP you'll get, up to 10 levels above you. So if you're rank 25, and you fight a rank 15 dodo, you'll get less SP than if you fight a rank 25 dodo, which will give less SP than if you fight a rank 35 dodo. But if you fight a rank 50 dodo, you'll still get the same SP as if you fought a rank 35 dodo.

2) Different mobs give different base amounts of SP. Some mobs -- like raptors and ahrimans -- give more SP (base of 150 SP). Some mobs -- like chigoes, coblyns, and puks -- give less base SP (base of 63 SP).

3) Your party size impacts the amount of SP you get. If you solo or duo, you'll get 100% of the SP per mob. If you trio, as long as everyone in your party is within +5/-10 levels of you, you'll get 90% of the SP per mob. With 4 people in your party, as long as everyone is withing +5/-10, you'll get 85%. Etc. While that sounds like they're punishing you for partying, you kill mobs so much faster and easier that you actually get much more SP in a party.

4) At lower levels, you get a bonus to the amount of SP you get per mob. Up through level 23, they take the SP you get from the mob, and they multiply it by some number. Between levels 1-6, they multiply it by 4.0. That number drops until you get to level 24, when you get the base SP (in other words, they multiply the SP by 1.0). So you're probably getting more SP from your lower level jobs because they're under r24, so they're getting an SP bonus per mob.

If you want to read about how SP works, check out Kanican's livejournal.

But the best advice is usually to get into a party. Fight mobs that are 10 levels higher than you. Grind camps -- especially at beastman encampments -- now seem to give the best SP.

I was trying to find another thread that was talking about solo play and how bad leves were. But a few people said its about how fast you finish a leve now not how many stars. You get about 2k a leve and if you do all 6 leves that's not bad. I'm
a 35 pug and I just did this last night and was happy with what I was getting. Fighting only got me 100 exp per kill but as long
as I finished the leve in 10 mins I get the bonus exp for finishing the leve.

It's both speed and difficulty. You get a bonus when you complete the leve based on 1) the leve difficulty (how many stars you run it on); and 2) how quickly you complete the leve.

[Karbine]

Yea Yoshi p aknowledged this. It sucks for that level range right now, and leves in general.