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    If no one access a FC house in 35 Days you lose everything! Coming Patch 2.3 ><

    This needs attention. Because I feel like its not fair to players who put time and Gil into buying a house. Now before people get crazy I'm sure this won't effect large Free Companies, It may not effect very many at all but there is a chance it could. Most likely it will only effect a small minority of small FCs. Another thing to consider Will this happen to Personal Housing as well? The reason behind this is to free up server space instead of SE adding new wards.


    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Hello, everyone.

    We do in fact have plans to add more land in the future, but I cannot promise a specific time frame at the moment.

    Also, currently as of patch 2.2, houses will remain intact regardless of whether a free company is active or inactive. However, in the future, in addition to adding land, after patch 2.3 we’ll also be looking into adding a feature so when free company members haven't accessed their house for 35 days (Earth time), their house and land will be automatically forfeit in order to free up the land. We'll also be looking into a system that will display the remaining time until this happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I just found this while I was looking for something else.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(10-30-2013)

    1:14:22
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?

    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

    They wont have anything like that really now! So why now are they adding some old MMO system to the game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    That is a little extreme isn't it? I can't speak for everyone who owns a house, But since I own a small house that is ridiculous. I mean I can see why, But to just say that after 35 days you lose your house is just wrong. People worked hard to make the Gil to get a house and purchase/make furnishings. I really think this needs to be looked at again, 60-90 days sounds reasonable. I have a small FC and when I mean small I mean two people ( I had 7 but 5 of them quit after 2.1). If I decide to take a break for two or three months I will lose my house, I don't know how many small FCs there are and how many players they have so it might not be such a big deal.

    But maybe there could be a way to convert the house into some type of deed/permit? 35 days the house Is converted to a deed for the same type of land Small/Medium/Large and when the FC leader returns it will be in their mail.
    35 days is not a lot of time. I think 60-90* days would be better. Or convert the loss to Land Deed and a Building Permit. So at 35 days of inactivity in a Free Company house the Land is forfeit and then converted to a Land Deed and a Building Permit for the same size. I would say a refund in Gil but many FCs bought houses at the max and some at the lowest, so there would be an issue. Do you get what you paid or do you get lower? Then some would get upset if they didn't get a full refund of what they paid. And then if it was the case of a full refund of what we paid, People could abuse it. An FC who bought a large house for 89mil gets it all back and then only has to pay 59mil to buy another.... So I think extending the time or a Deed/Permit to the FC leader would be the best.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-13-2014 at 01:57 PM.

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    Jeykama's Avatar
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    If no one in the FC can be arsed to check the house in more than a month, the FC doesn't need a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    If no one in the FC can be arsed to check the house in more than a month, the FC doesn't need a house.
    Especially considering personal housing is gonna have an FC-housing related option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    If no one in the FC can be arsed to check the house in more than a month, the FC doesn't need a house.
    A lot of the FCs that own houses have small memberships made-up of close-knit IRL groups, the sort of groups that can stop playing a game for a month because some event is affecting all of its members IRL; final exams, baby born early, long family vacations, a friend's death, moving home, dorm-wide internet outage nightmare, etc. 35 days is too short to play nicely with real life.
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    To be fair it IS kind of a waste of space and further delays the potential of personal housing since they said personal housing will come when they're satisfied with FC housing results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    We paid the gil and time into that house. SE should not be able to take it from us.
    You do remember this is Square Enix's game and not ours, right? They can shut the game off tomorrow if they felt like it, you agreed you're only paying for the right to "access" the game, you own nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You do remember this is Square Enix's game and not ours, right? They can shut the game off tomorrow if they felt like it, you agreed you're only paying for the right to "access" the game, you own nothing
    What an excellent attitude from a paying customer. Just let SE do whatever they want!

    No, thank you. It doesn't matter if they technically "can" do whatever they want. We have every right to tell them they shouldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Put it this way, if you invested so much into a FC house in the first place, i would think it will be used not sitting around collecting dust.
    It is no one's business what I or anyone else does with our FC houses. Visit them daily, hang out ever couple weeks, decorate it up and then forget about it for a few months until some new decoration comes along... even just purchasing it and "letting it rot". It doesn't matter. It was the player(s)' gil and time. They do not deserve getting that taken from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    What an excellent attitude from a paying customer. Just let SE do whatever they want!
    You don't click "I agree" if you don't agree with what the terms state...I just know what I read before I hit I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You don't click "I agree" if you don't agree with what the terms state...I just know what I read before I hit I agree.
    You should read up on how valid MMO ToSes actually are in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    What an excellent attitude from a paying customer. Just let SE do whatever they want!

    No, thank you. It doesn't matter if they technically "can" do whatever they want. We have every right to tell them they shouldn't.



    It is no one's business what I or anyone else does with our FC houses. Visit them daily, hang out ever couple weeks, decorate it up and then forget about it for a few months until some new decoration comes along... even just purchasing it and "letting it rot". It doesn't matter. It was the player(s)' gil and time. They do not deserve getting that taken from them.
    If they let them to just "sit and rot" regardless of gil put into them. It's one less space some other FC could use but can't because the Whole FC just doesn't care about it/not logged in for a long time.
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