Next relic update in 2.38.

**madolyn** · 08-26-2014 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by DishSoap

You also don't consider the fact the devs might want to make the relic more than a casual alternative later in the game.

its hardly even casual now lol.

**FreakinZMartin** · 08-24-2014 12:13 PM

Well I guess I wont be able to do the next upgrade since I will be stuck on trying to get novus due to materia being really expensive for a SMN, thanks SE.

**Black91CRX** · 08-24-2014 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by FreakinZMartin

Well I guess I wont be able to do the next upgrade since I will be stuck on trying to get novus due to materia being really expensive for a SMN, thanks SE.

I suggest putting your Miner and GSM to work and bond your own materia. If I can do it, so can you!

**Nep_Nep** · 08-24-2014 12:17 PM

*finger cross*
Pleasebeaboss pleasebeaboss

No more Materia/Alex/Stone/Fate Hell. Dx

**Colt47** · 08-24-2014 12:29 PM

haven't started atma... refuse to start atma because it is a horrible system that should be burning at the stake...

**Fendred** · 08-24-2014 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Colt47

haven't started atma... refuse to start atma because it is a horrible system that should be burning at the stake...

You know, I think it has more to do with the fact the end game really doesn't work for a lot of people (end game setup not working as intended for intended audience), so all that's left for them is the atma grind. Otherwise it would be looked at as an optional challenge where people pat themselves on the back for getting as far as they do on it. At the same time, Yoshida seems to be noticing the problem, which is why the relic line is getting progressively easier. Whatever the cause, classic raid progression is not working for the new players, which I have some hypotheses about (and I've probably already hit on multiple points elsewhere).

**Sessurea** · 08-24-2014 01:36 PM

For the people saying "they said coil would be the best", yes it WAS the best. It would make no sense at all if the next upgrade was equal ilvl to old stuff currently in the game. And besides, if it is better than t9 , then it's an upgrade for everyone. Sheesh, be happy? Wanting your old weapon to be better than others future gear? really? >8D

But anyways, I fear it will be ilvl 120 weap with new looks. Please look forward to animus-esque part 2, to gain actual stats....(in 408408 patches later ).Since I plan to go zenith-novus before this patch, hoping to replace liberator with novus, I hope and pray next upgrade doesn't involve more gil-sink.

And yh @ above: having a gsm = dirt cheap SB gear. Got a miner aswell? then almost free. Appart from the rng/time involved xc

Originally Posted by Colt47

haven't started atma... refuse to start atma because it is a horrible system that should be burning at the stake...

Got 9 Atmas today, in between extreme primal queues. I'm thinking the drop is buffed. My 1st atma weap took 35 hours. Might just be rng, however xc

**ispano** · 08-24-2014 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sessurea

For the people saying "they said coil would be the best", yes it WAS the best. It would make no sense at all if the next upgrade was equal ilvl to old stuff currently in the game. And besides, if it is better than t9 , then it's an upgrade for everyone. Sheesh, be happy? Wanting your old weapon to be better than others future gear? really? >8D

I think you misunderstand. When endgame weapons are "the best" like Yoshi said, it means they are. The point that relics become better than High Allagan, is the point when there will be Third Coil Weapons, ie 2.4. Not 2.38.

**Sessurea** · 08-25-2014 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by ispano

I think you misunderstand. When endgame weapons are "the best" like Yoshi said, it means they are. The point that relics become better than High Allagan, is the point when there will be Third Coil Weapons, ie 2.4. Not 2.38.

Omg HA wont be best for 0.2 patches world end

**ispano** · 08-25-2014 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by Sessurea

Omg HA wont be best for 0.2 patches world end

But you see, that would "break" the precedence they've put forth, regardless of how long it is. That's why I said you misunderstood.

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