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    Krr's Avatar
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    Murah Jhida
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    Who else to blame but themselves?
    Bad game design that punishes players who want to enjoy the game and not play rat-race every three months when a new piece of broken content comes out.
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    video games are bad

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    Deeg Astra
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    Is anyone tracking in what order he is going for the ATMA?
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    Kalandros Shadowsun
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwyan View Post
    Is anyone tracking in what order he is going for the ATMA?
    Also at what real-world times is it being completed?
    Japanese atma theory: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/
    Is that atmas have better drop rate at certain times
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    Also at what real-world times is it being completed?
    Japanese atma theory: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/
    Is that atmas have better drop rate at certain times
    Its not true. Yoshi already said so.
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    Deeg Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    Also at what real-world times is it being completed?
    Japanese atma theory: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/
    Is that atmas have better drop rate at certain times
    I'm interested to see, because I found some interesting things in my own ATMA hunting efforts. My findings don't support any time-based theory but it would support the idea that there is an efficient order to hunt for them (assuming either the same across all jobs or different depending on job/race/grand company/etc...).
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    State Alchemist
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    I don't care if they get all 12 atma in 30 minutes. The point is after 100+ hours of farming over the last 3 weeks all I have to show for it is one more atma, which puts me at 7/12 for my FIRST weapon... I still have 3 other Zeniths waiting to be upgraded after BLM AND I need a set for NINJA. Not to mention they are releasing the next step in the zodiac weapon quest line in 2.38 which is one month away? How in the holy f**k am I supposed to get 5 sets of atma in one month????

    Luck based endgame progression? Bullsh*t. I've done 300+ fates in just East Shorud alone without an atma drop. Screw anyone who gets super lucky and screw SE for ever implementing this garbage system the way it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateAlchemist View Post
    I don't care if they get all 12 atma in 30 minutes. The point is after 100+ hours of farming over the last 3 weeks all I have to show for it is one....
    You need to go into hiding now. I can hear the galloping White Knights heading your way.
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    Dashuto Moragan
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateAlchemist View Post
    Let them come.
    Have an FC mate who has been trying to get Upper La Noscea Atma (normally an easy one) for over 2 weeks. Some of us have shown up and helped get the fates faster. There was an instance we had where one person was in South Than for 3 weeks. During this one of our LS members showed up to help this person. The helper got the atma /THREE TIMES/ in the afternoon they helped, and the luckless person was still in for a long haul. Its just ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashuto View Post
    Have an FC mate who has been trying to get Upper La Noscea Atma (normally an easy one) for over 2 weeks. Some of us have shown up and helped get the fates faster. There was an instance we had where one person was in South Than for 3 weeks. During this one of our LS members showed up to help this person. The helper got the atma /THREE TIMES/ in the afternoon they helped, and the luckless person was still in for a long haul. Its just ridiculous.
    And that's a perfect example of the crap I am talking about. In the time I have been farming for my first set, one of my FC members has gotten 3 sets and already is working on novus on two of those now...meanwhile, I am sitting here still f***ed regardless of how much time i put into the game.
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    Rjain Midnight
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateAlchemist View Post
    And that's a perfect example of the crap I am talking about. In the time I have been farming for my first set, one of my FC members has gotten 3 sets and already is working on novus on two of those now...meanwhile, I am sitting here still f***ed regardless of how much time i put into the game.
    Looking at your achievements, you achieved 300 FATEs back in November and have yet to achieve the 1,000 FATE achievement in the 9 months between then and now. That makes me highly doubt you "doing 300+ FATEs in North Shroud". I see people constantly complaining that they do "hundreds/thousands of FATEs and see no atma" and realistically they might have done 30-50 at absolute max.

    While RNG can suck, there is a ridiculous amount of exaggeration in the community. Most people saying "I am spending hundreds of hours doing this" probably spent a fraction of the time those who achieved 12 atma did.
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