Warrior Improvement Questions

[Ouza]

I am confused, are you just trolling?

1) I'm confuse, you take Defiance OFF but let a Savage blade go through o.O....I'm sorry to tell u this but a warrior should NEVER have savage blade. You need Provoke, Flash (Saves TP from OP/lower dungeons, Convalescene). this are the cross-class skills from gladiator.
2) You cannot take aggro from other Main Tank, unless u have a) Defiance on, b) Spamming Butcher block combo, even than is hard to take off unless u are using DPS accessory/MT not using aggro combo. U should be rotating b/w S/E or S/P and BB
3. If you are MT on boss and trash adds spawn u NEED* to pick up trash adds (unless dps is high to burn adds quick/overgear pt). you will not loose aggro on boss as your enemity should be high by time adds spawn.
4. put that flash/provoke back on your skill bar
5. if you are OT, take defiance off/ put it back on when about to tank swap/adds spawn, if someone else tell u to put on while u OT,tell them to stfu*
6. warrior is best for AOE so u should not have issue with aggro, when u pull, let adds gather up and do 2 OP than began combo other adds, if mark target start there if not mark, look at the enmity list, and combo that one that starts to loose hp fast. rotate Enmity combo with different trash adds. (example heavy swing main trash/skull sunder, switch target and Butcher blocker another target)

1) I swapped provoke for savage blade a week before I posted this thread because I was getting laughed at for using it right before over power to agro mobs WHEN the DPS was pulling a different mob than me. (“haha thats funny, you pulled provoke, what a noob, such an idiot, worse tank ever”) I sometimes accidentally slipped and clicked on savage blade when I meant to click heavy swing or skull sunder or *other move nearby. When you dont look at your quick bar the whole time when using a mouse. SINCE starting this post and reading the first responders suggestions I reorganized my quick bar and put provoke, flash back on. (and Duur)




2) I can take agro from the MT without defiance, if they are not playing their class right. Even without spamming butcher block or over power. Just with the other combo moves available. Yes I can read and know the difference between the ones which say they get enmity or get enmity with defiance. My point when I said this originally was that I was forced to be OT when it was painfully clear the PLD or WAR was really really bad just because they were a paladin or had better gear!*




3) Not always, it is not always feasible to do this on bosses and dungeons. And I do pick up adds. Its when the DPS or healer pulls the adds or refuse to stop targeting the adds or run the other way with the adds that I cant pull agro or stop *fighting the boss to chase after the idiots who are running away from the party.*




4) like I said in a response post earlier, did that the first first response on this thread said so, its back, its been back since friday night. Why dont you read through before trolling the thread?




5) yes, got that too, I do that. My real problem is when they demand I take it off and be OT then stand there and make me take hate first so they can run through an area and leave me behind to die, alone, without their lazy butts helping. They want speed runs, I get that.. but if you want to be MT and do a speed run, sacrifice yourself, not your team.*




6) really? We barely have any AOE moves, especially without defiance.




7) DPS and OT/MT laugh at me when I target mark and still pull on other mobs or agro other mobs and run off. And I’m not quite the dufus you insinuate here. I got this part. *Figured it out. Know how to do THIS. *I know ho to cycle, know to target the weakest enemy (low agro or low life) cycle through mobs to spam hate moves, etc. I’ve been tanking for close to 5 years, and FF14 is a different beast than the 6 other MMO's i've played

I dont have a problem getting or keeping agro. I have a problem getting hate from other tanks for doing so, with or without defiance. I have a problem with DPS or healers spamming AOE's or collecting other mobs in the room and then getting angry I dont chase them and take agro off. I can handle up to three mobs at once, easy, I cant run around an entire room after them and live to tell about it. I have a problem getting hate form other players for refusing to be an idiot and pulls more than one or two mobs. I get hate for getting agro off other tanks, I get hate from wanting to be main tank when the main tank is being an idiot. I have a problem being left for dead when the other members of the 4-man or 8-man party run off without me and leave me to die and tell me I am a bad tank for not pulling the mobs with us and tanking THEIR mobs first.

I am asking if am a bad tank for not pulling stupid moves like chasing after a healer or DPS who does not target my mob/target and pulls mobs or adds upon themselves before I can run over and get agro first. And for refusing to do so when they start kiting them instead of getting closer to me so I can grab their mob without running in circles trying to keep my 1, 2, or 3 mobs aggroed while agroing mobs number 4, 5, and sometimes 6.

since following the kind advice by the first person to respond, my tanking has much improved, my efficiency has much improved, and I’ve spent a lot of time at training dummies timing things. I want to thank the not forum trolls who have taken me seriously and given me kind and straight forward advice, your comments have made all the difference and my tanking has much improved over the weekend. Thank you. I hope to party with you some day and follow your lead. To the trolls, thank you for reminding me why I avoid forums in the first place.