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    Moxiesan's Avatar
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    Minako Nakamura
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    Pictomancer Lv 100

    So how about that Materia and the Market....

    You broke materia gathering for NON-CRAFTING people.

    I hate crafting with a passion, so now I cannot put some hard work into making money by spirit bonding bought gear off the Market Board. Here are some ideas to fix these issues.

    1. go back to old style of spirit bonding. Higher content = Faster bonding, BUT, when you queue for a dungeon/raid, make it to where you can't click commence unless you have the required item level. (I spirit bonded zircon gear, but I always pulled my weight because I made sure my iLevel was high enough to still participate in the proper way.)

    2. Let us convert blues/greens that drop out of dungeons. They take forever to bond ANYWAYS.

    3. This isn't with spirit bonding, but more of a note. The reason the gil market is so lopsided is because you're so concerned with crafting. Crafters (and this is the general rule of thumb) have all the gil. They can get away with it because you restrict everything based on needing crafting to get many of the important things in the game. Shoot, to get grade IV materia, you have to know a crafter or spend a fortune (on a piece of gear a crafter has) to spirit bond a piece of high level gear. Even then you're not guarenteed it's going to be a grade IV.

    Please please fix this. I know you're not trying to mess with player markets, but as it stands, people like me (The dungeoneers) can't keep up in gil with crafters.

    P.S. No, I don't have a ton of gil to buy stuff and resell it, which still, the root is with crafters.
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    Stig Nodding
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    Well in a world of economics, the crafters play to make money, they do that and will continue to do just that. This was a broken system in the game that should of been fixed a long time ago. A good company did what they should do with a problem, and fixed it. Now as a consolation, they have made the drop rate for tier 4 mataria higher for i90 items, previously it was the same as i70, not so much a consolation when that's how it should be. Now, as gear gets to be more and more abundant, I level wise but mataria remains in only 4 tiers, this was getting to be a much bigger issue, so they were able to cut it short. If you wanna make real money you gotta work it out and craft. It's not fun, but that's why you have such high gil rewards for it. If it wasn't hard the demand wouldn't be so high and neither would the prices.
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    Lyli Hanabira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stignodding View Post
    It's not fun, but that's why you have such high gil rewards for it. If it wasn't hard the demand wouldn't be so high and neither would the prices.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stignodding View Post
    It's not fun, [...]
    If it's not fun, what's the point?
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    When it comes down to it, they've added plenty of ways to increase spirit bonding, if this was a precious way of making money to you, you might wanna check to see how much they actually nerfed it
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    Already seen on Leviathan that ALL of the TIV crafting materia have been bought up seconds after the servers came up by a speculator.
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    Minako Nakamura
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    Yeah Stignodding. The issue is that the lvl 90 stuff is made by crafters. There is nothing a dungeoneer can hunt for and get themselves to spirit bond. They claim freedom on our markets, but they are incredibly restrictive.
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    Attackat Muaddib
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Moxiesan View Post
    You broke materia gathering for NON-CRAFTING people.
    ...
    3. This isn't with spirit bonding, but more of a note. The reason the gil market is so lopsided is because you're so concerned with crafting.
    ...

    Please please fix this. I know you're not trying to mess with player markets, but as it stands, people like me (The dungeoneers) can't keep up in gil with crafters.

    P.S. No, I don't have a ton of gil to buy stuff and resell it, which still, the root is with crafters.
    As a DoW/M, ALL of the gear up to iL110 are given FREE.

    Other then relic weapon for relic quest, there is nothing a crafter can make that is a must have by DoW/M, and even the best iL90 gear a crafter can make are useless because of hunts. And even on the relic weapon, some can only be made with drops from dungeons.

    So, other then a show of "pride", why do DoW/M need to have a massive gil chest? Isn't your free iL110 sets good enough?
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    Aka Kitsune
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    Quote Originally Posted by AttacKat View Post
    As a DoW/M, ALL of the gear up to iL110 are given FREE.

    Other then relic weapon for relic quest, there is nothing a crafter can make that is a must have by DoW/M, and even the best iL90 gear a crafter can make are useless because of hunts. And even on the relic weapon, some can only be made with drops from dungeons.

    So, other then a show of "pride", why do DoW/M need to have a massive gil chest? Isn't your free iL110 sets good enough?
    This is in relation to getting materia. You can't convert that free gear you speak of into materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    This is in relation to getting materia. You can't convert that free gear you speak of into materia.
    You cannot and do not need to meld any iL100+ gear. If you are talking about SB'g DoH/L gear while in a dungeon, then you are looking at a possible exploit.
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    Height Error
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    Quote Originally Posted by AttacKat View Post
    You cannot and do not need to meld any iL100+ gear. If you are talking about SB'g DoH/L gear while in a dungeon, then you are looking at a possible exploit.
    But you do need materia for Novus weapons.
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