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    Quote Originally Posted by Alinah View Post

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    I have updated the text according to what you've said Snootles, this one is better resolution aswell, uploaded by imgur.

    What I've seen as well from your data snootles is that several of the food evens out each other, Plums seems to have brought people back a color several times after feeding berries, pineapple and apple, which seems kinda odd. Can it be that plums evens out all 3 of those fruits?

    You also said I missed to add something from your data, I only found the morbol green one, can you pinpoint me to which others I'm missing?

    Also heads up, I'm going on holiday on Friday for 10 days so I wont be able to do any updates for 10 days after Friday.
    Thanks for this, I was able to get my choco to Dalamund Red without difficulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alinah View Post
    They don't have names XD.
    SO basically I have like 10-15 self made layers within those, more selfmade layers, within that obviously several hundreds of layers :P
    Ooook lol xD. So, we will wait for your return hihi.
    Wish u a great time, have fun !

    Ah, but one question. Did u only add infos to your color chart if someone has feed 1 type of fruit (until he get feather proc) all the time?
    Because sometimes a color will lead u to 2 or 3 colors with the same fruit. I wonder that is because someone feed mixed fruits before and did not feed 1 type of fruit from the beginning. U know what I mean?
    (Erm, sry for my bad english btw xD)
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    Just got to Storm Blue from Royal Blue feeding Pears, 12 pears then feather message.
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    Currant Purple +1 pear = Deepwood Green

    So I appear to be cycling now... not sure what to try next. Valfruit last time took me to Currant Purple again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shika View Post
    Currant Purple +1 pear = Deepwood Green

    So I appear to be cycling now... not sure what to try next. Valfruit last time took me to Currant Purple again.
    Maybe just an uncommon proc to get to Soot Black. I wasted 4-5 days on the Regal Purple cycle trying to get to Rolanberry Red before giving up. Yet everyone seems to get to Rolanberry with not too much hassle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alinah View Post
    So, question, how/why are there colors on the chart that seem to not have been reached? For example, Orchard Brown and Qiqirin Brown, which only have paths leading away from them and not to them.
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    To RNG or to not RNG

    So colour, much science... WOW...

    As posted HERE, from what I can see now we have the following:

    1) There is a normal straight, no RNG nonsense, line for each type of fruit. You can see this clearly in my spreadsheet.

    2) There is RNG. RNG factor will cause you to:
    - Skip ahead 1, maybe even 2, colours
    - Give you a bust. Feather proc but no colour change
    - Set you in a colour line of another fruit
    - Land you at a rare or uncommon colour for your type of fruit (EG, going from Lavender Purple to Raptor Blue with O'Ghomorro Berry as happened with me)

    3) RGB, thanks to Attackat, seems to be the factor that SE based their presets on. These presets will be within RGB code range. (Attackat, feel free to correct me!)

    4) You cannot tweak your colour by adding or subtracting OR mixing fruits.

    This info is slowly starting to become fact, in my opinion.

    What are your thoughts on this folks?
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  8. #568
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark494 View Post
    So, question, how/why are there colors on the chart that seem to not have been reached? For example, Orchard Brown and Qiqirin Brown, which only have paths leading away from them and not to them.
    Because people have been mass feeding mixed fruits or 1 fruit and didn't know what to look for. So they landed on a colour but have no idea how they got there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrfina View Post
    While I can't tell you if Boomerz's approach is correct, I can say that it is a step in the right direction. From a programmer's perspective (me): while the spreadsheets and charts might be useful for most people to see and predict how they go from one color to another, it would make almost no sense to write code which WORKED in this fashion. It would be obscure, and frankly a coding clusterf***. While it is easier to SEE it as walking a color tree, there is a SYSTEM in place. A mathematical formula which determines what color you arrive at, we just haven't figured it out yet. But this theory seems extremely promising.
    I don't know, well no one knows 100% obviously. But to me that sounds like overcomplicating it.
    Set a simple straight forward line with presets, add RNG and they're done.

    Then again, I am no programmer whatsoever. So that's why I hope my spreadsheet can help someone to actually figure it out.

    Until then, I am sticking with the KISS theory (Keep It Simple, Stupid)
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    So after trying for days i'm very close too soot black. I'm at deepwood so should i feed 1 Valfruit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    So after trying for days i'm very close too soot black. I'm at deepwood so should i feed 1 Valfruit?
    Only 1 response so far in my sheet. Deepwood Green -> Valfruit -> Currant Purple.
    No idea what RNG can do here.
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