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    FJerome's Avatar
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    Edhe'li Merwyn
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Starter Colour - Sky Blue
    Fed - 4 Berries (1 proc)
    Result - Turquoise Green

    . . . that was certainly not what I was expecting but I'll take it. Let's hope all he wants now is a few pears to get to Adamantoise Green.
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    Hiyori Sato
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    PROVIDING RESOURCES
    Providing fruits to people that can't garden themselves. i'm helping out my fc atm and some close friends that need help coloring.
    so if you need fruits or need help with what fruit/step to take hit me up on here or in game i'm on Cactuar server and my ign is Y'ukina Sato

    VOLUNTEER
    Since i love experimenting with coloring i'm helping my fc and close friends out getting the color they want.
    so i'm open to volunteer experimenting on any color
    I'm on Cactuar server ign is Y'ukina Sato
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    Anony Moose
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Update on Mini Moose's route to Wine Red:

    Desert Yellow to Millioncorn Yellow (Apples x4)
    Millioncorn Yellow to Pumpkin Orange (Apples x7)
    Pumpkin Orange to Sunset Orange (Apples x11)
    Sunset Orange to Blood Red (15 Apples)
    Blood Red to Dalamud Red (4 Berries)
    Dalamud Red to Rolanberry Red (15 Berries)

    At this stage, she became a bit paranoid about falling into the regal pit and tried to avoid it entirely by doing one feather process from pears (3 pears) and two from berries (1 berry, 4 more berries). This number of processes took a JP player from Rolanberry to Wine, but that player had been feeding bulk fruits the entire time, so I anticipate that she will land on russet brown, kobold brown, grape purple, or midnight blue. I realize this step will be inadmissible to this thread's theorycrafting, but to her that's worth a chance at avoiding the regal pit (watch, we'll get it anyway, because RNGesus).
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
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    Scarlet Ravenloft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Update on Mini Moose's route to Wine Red:

    At this stage, she became a bit paranoid about falling into the regal pit and tried to avoid it entirely by doing one feather process from pears (3 pears) and two from berries (1 berry, 4 more berries). This number of processes took a JP player from Rolanberry to Wine, but that player had been feeding bulk fruits the entire time, so I anticipate that she will land on russet brown, kobold brown, grape purple, or midnight blue.
    Good Luck! I took the long arse way around but I'm finally on Russet Brown and it took 3 Apples to get a message off of it. If it's not Wine Red in morning I'm going to be a sad panda. With the RGB numbers.. at this point that's about all it can be.

    So far my entire route from Rolanberry Red: Rolanberry Red + 3 Pears > Regal Purple + 8 Pears > Bark Brown + 1 Apple > Regal Purple + 1 Pear > Bark Brown + 2 Pears > Mud Green + 2 Berries > Charcoal Grey + 1 Apple > Loam Brown + 1 Apple > Russet Brown + 3 Apples > ???

    My Old Post with all my experimentation recorded in it.
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    Last edited by Ravenloft; 09-04-2014 at 06:38 PM.

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    Anony Moose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenloft View Post
    Good Luck!
    It was doomed from the moment I got my hopes up. Regal Pain in My Ass.
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
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    Robert Black
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Can someone help me, I tried to follow the chart but it didn't work. I want to get snow white chocobo. How do I get it when colors keep going all over the place. I fed only plums but it doesn't work. I already had to reset 3 times already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianX View Post
    I fed only plums but it doesn't work.
    Welcome to the wide world of RNG. Some people get to Snow White in two plum procs, others have to go around a little bit. We can't provide much advice without knowing where you are and how you got there, though.
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    EllemEnopee's Avatar
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    Mogs'zitte Silverbow
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    Zalera
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    I'm sorry to be jumping in so late to the game ... I just can't get the gumption up to read 51 pages of comments! ... but I have yet to see anything about hue/saturation/lightness (or brilliance in Photoshop) in any of the web searches I have done. The reason I bring this up is because the different dyes are grouped pretty much by their hue angles. Basically, "pure" red has a hue of 0, pure green of 120 and pure blue 0f 240, with values ranging from 0 to 359 (full circle). From the numbers I've gathered:

    the greys are all over, as should be expected
    reds run between 340 and 20 or so
    browns from 15 and 40
    yellows from 30 and 50
    greens from 50 and 180
    blues from 200 to 250
    purples from 250 to 330

    By "reds" I mean the dyes under the "red" group, etc. You can see there is very little overlap, based on hue angle (and what little there is might just be how my monitor is calibrated). RGB values, however, go all over the place compared to like dyes.

    I'm working on it myself, but I'd suggest the "red" fruit probably shift the color towards a hue of 0, green fruit towards 120 & blue towards 240, from whatever angle you start on. Whether lighter and darker mean relative increases/decreases in the L and B values, I don't know yet. But have a look at the data and see if this scheme makes more sense.

    What I will be working on is more of a graph of where the dyes chips fall on the HSB color wheel. Moving from Desert Yellow and trying to see if there are "steps" clockwise or counterclockwise, whether the size of the step matters based on the color the fruit affects, and what "lighter" or "darker" means in terms of "radius" on the color wheel.

    Given that the fruit seems to affect red, blue and green somewhat specifically, that's probably the best way to look at things ... but HSB might take out some of the "RNG"-ness people are seeing given how the fixed dye values are arranged.
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    Last edited by EllemEnopee; 09-04-2014 at 05:03 PM.

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    Lyrical Melody
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    Behemoth
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EllemEnopee View Post
    What I will be working on is more of a graph of where the dyes chips fall on the HSB color wheel. Moving from Desert Yellow and trying to see if there are "steps" clockwise or counterclockwise, whether the size of the step matters based on the color the fruit affects, and what "lighter" or "darker" means in terms of "radius" on the color wheel.
    I've been working on mapping out the dyes in a color wheel fashion. My colors are from a color picker (Colour to HTML), and the were taken from my character dye window.

    You are welcome to make a copy for yourself to play with- I'm guessing it should be able to be saved to your own Google Drive like spreadsheets are.
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    Chocobo Color Map / Planner
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    Lairja Feyiama
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyricalMelody View Post
    I've been working on mapping out the dyes in a color wheel fashion. My colors are from a color picker (Colour to HTML), and the were taken from my character dye window.

    You are welcome to make a copy for yourself to play with- I'm guessing it should be able to be saved to your own Google Drive like spreadsheets are.
    Great job. According to this you may add Grape Purple------>Mamook pears------>Shadow Blue
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