Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Xethy]

i got mines in 2 6hr feeds. 1 6hr - started at desert yellow fed 4x plums (feather messages on 3rd&4th feed) =sylph green. 2nd 6hr - started at sylph green fed 8x plums(feather message on last feed) = snow white..... this is getting interesting. hope we can figure something out soon. I just want a colibri pink choco

Our two make no sense at all when compared! hehe

[dragonflie]

Our two make no sense at all when compared! hehe

Is it possible that both were in different Stable condition?

The one thing I see that is common in both of yours experiment is that the total is the same, both used 12 Doman Plums.

[ruskie]

Snow white: 8 pear procs apple green

[Jayne422]

I love the information we're gathering everyone and how it's helping you all to work on your theories. I updated the OP with links to experiments, more theory posts, requests for volunteers, volunteers who have offered their services, etc. I also condensed some of the information down using the Hide feature so that the post wouldn't be so long.

[LyricalMelody]

I love the information we're gathering everyone and how it's helping you all to work on your theories. I updated the OP with links to experiments, more theory posts, requests for volunteers, volunteers who have offered their services, etc. I also condensed some of the information down using the Hide feature so that the post wouldn't be so long.

Could I get my Data Gathering project listed, please?
Link to my post

[Jayne422]

Could I get my Data Gathering project listed, please?
Link to my post

Done and done. ^_^

[Sento-Frost]

Just a theory :

When you feed your chocobo you can get a "growing feathers" message. Once you got it you *always* get it in the same session. I think it's just to notify we fed our chocobo enough for him to pass a step, and change color, and that's why it's always displayed after the first one.

In my opinion, all feeds are effective, but only a certain amount will allow to pass to another color.
It also means that the 2nd message and the other ones are just a repetition of the first, so furthest messages are irrelevant to the effectiveness or not of the last given fruits !

I don't think it's relevant to note "growing feathers" messages like that. Either people STOP feeding the chocobo and wait to see each color each time it says "growing feathers" to really note when fruit counted as a big step, either it's no use.

PS: some people have noted the message went away after feeding a lot, I think that's just because they went back to current chocobo color with all their feedings ^^

[LyricalMelody]

My findings are consistent with the idea that after the first "growing new feathers" message it will continue to show up on each of the subsequent feedings of that snack type. It might be a bug that will be fixed. Right now, you always get a success message after the first one (on the same snack), but you don't know if it actually proc'd a color change. So saying you got 8 feather messages to go from color A to color B would be like telling someone it will take 8 tries to slot 3 overmelds. (assume that after the first proc, they can no longer see a success or fail and then get to see their results when they are finished). 8 is not a number that will work for everyone.

Evidence: from my data
Dolman Plum
Person 1
Desert yellow: 2 "new feather" messages => Cream Yellow
Cream Yellow: 3 "new feather" messages => Bone White
Bone white: 2 "new feather" messages => Snow White

Person 2
Honey Yellow: 1 "new feather" msg => Cream Yellow
Cream Yellow: 1 "new feather" msg => Bone White

It's possible that both of Person 1's color changes proc'd on the Desert Yellow, skipping over the Honey Yellow color, though I would need to use a Plum on a Desert Yellow (to one feather message) to confirm this.

Person 3
Desert Yellow: 8 "new feather" messages => Snow White

Person 1 shows 7 "new feather" messages in total from Desert Yellow => Snow White, so one of Person 3's proc's failed.

I believe it is possible that certain colors may have an "HQ-type" proc that results in a different color.

But that is why I am trying to gather all the datas

Data Gathering Form

[Crankysorc]

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Yeah, I'm just updating my spreadsheet and there's a lot of overlap now. Kind of shitty if they did it like this, because then you have to choose with dealing with RNG of the end result or RNG of getting your chocobo to eat fruit in another 6 hours.

[Moqi]

A little more explanation. Your always going to count UP. when I say go the other way I mean swap the target and source.

That's why I messed up the last one, thank you!
I have started feeding the Chocobo the apples first, but I did not get a "new feather" message after 2, but 3 (which is still consistent with your theory if we consider the exact numbers, as it's a +38 difference in red).

Tonight I will check what colour it has become, take pics and notes, and feed him pears until I get a new feather message, which I expect in 1-3 feedings (it's +27 from Desert Yellow but it may vary once the green value is adjusted to match whatever dye I will get from the first feeding).

I will stop feeding everytime I get a new feathers message and edit this post with the findings.


Experiment: Following cearka's colour theory I will attempt to go from Desert Yellow to Lotus Pink

According to the theory, I will need around 2 Xelphatol Apples, 2 Mamook Pears, 6 Ciedalaes Pineapples (assuming the blue will loop). I will stop feeding the chocobo every time I get a "new feathers" message.

First Feed

3 Xelphatol Apples ==> "new feathers" message
--- 6 hours wait---
Colour change! From Desert Yellow to Millicorn Yellow