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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava View Post
    The Q9550 is more powerful than the low end of i7s, the only CPUs worth upgrading to would be a hi end i7 or i5 and I can't justify upgrading my mobo + cpu with the current games on the market. If this game requires a high end i7 just to be able to play smoothly on Standard settings, then that's a serious design flaw. I know people with significantly worse computers than mine claiming to run on higher settings just fine. This would indicate a serious optimization issue.




    Perhaps you can shed some light on this then. I have a friend who plays using a Geforce 460. According to the benchmarks (i'll let you Google them, they are everywhere) a 5850 performs higher than a 470 (one model above the 460). This friend has his settings all set higher than mine and claims to not have any sort of choppiness at all with a standard HD and a comparable CPU (IIRC he's using a low end i5). How could this discrepancy be explained?

    A 5850 better than a 470? lmao. No.

    I think you're looking at old benchmarks (before the 470 drivers matured, resulting in a 20%+ performance increase).

    The 470 trades blows with the 5870, often coming out on top.

    EDIT: Also, there is no way that other guy is maintaining 60+ fps with a single 5870, unless he is playing at a tiny resolution or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisville15 View Post
    A 5850 better than a 470? lmao. No.

    I think you're looking at old benchmarks (before the 470 drivers matured, resulting in a 20%+ performance increase).

    The 470 trades blows with the 5870, often coming out on top.

    EDIT: Also, there is no way that other guy is maintaining 60+ fps with a single 5870, unless he is playing at a tiny resolution or something.
    Yeah, upon second glance, you're right. But even still, my point still stands. (I'm trying to support your statement dammit. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava View Post
    Yeah, upon second glance, you're right. But even still, my point still stands. (I'm trying to support your statement dammit. )
    I'm just calling it like I see it, lol.

    And the only difference between the i5 and i7 is hyperthreading. That's it. In 99% of cases (i.e. not editing or encoding) a i5 is more than enough power to get through modern games. Again, I seriously doubt this game utilizes HT, as the majority of the games do not.

    That's not directed at you, but at that other guy. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisville15 View Post
    EDIT: Also, there is no way that other guy is maintaining 60+ fps with a single 5870, unless he is playing at a tiny resolution or something.
    I never said I maintain 60+ fps with a single 5870. Where did you read that? I said I have 60 fps most of the time with my single HD5870(which is overclocked) and always 60fps with Crossfire.

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    SE please offer a setting to increase or decrease the maximum player count displayed at once. It would help ALOT imo. An even better solution would be to implement either multiple models with different levels of detail or let this be done by tesselation (probably not gonna happen but there's nice techdemos showing how this works).
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