Anybody else... not as impressed by Edda's storyline? Did I miss a key moment?

[Risvertasashi]

If you haven't completed up to Tam-Tara Hard, spoiler warning.


So... We first meet/see Edda and her party outside of Sastasha. Avere was kind of a jerk to her.

Not too long later we see her and the team featured in an MSQ cutscene, revealing the tank died and the remnants of the group are ripping her a new one. But she seems well meaning...

A bit further along this time, we see her in the MSQ one last time... she reveals that she looks up to us, seems inspired to move on, etc etc. Perfectly good ending point that it was for a while. Still seems like a pretty well meaning gal...

Then Tam-Tara Hard comes along. I was excited for this. What had happened to poor Edda? But given the last time we saw her in MSQ... I was not expecting what we got. She wants to kill us (and her old 'friends') for Avere now? When did her evil switch suddenly flip?

I was kind of expecting maybe she got in over her head and we come to the rescue or something, not a complete 180 wants-to-murder-innocents-and-heros switcharoo.

So, I guess, did I miss something? If I didn't... did anyone else notice this? TT hard just doesn't seem to fit Edda, from what I know/have seen...

[Laveah]

when you find out that avere died you also learn that she's been carrying around his head in a bag. So it's not really an evil switch it's more she loves avere so much she'll do anything to bring him back.

[Risvertasashi]

when you find out that avere died you also learn that she's been carrying around his head in a bag. So it's not really an evil switch it's more she loves avere so much she'll do anything to bring him back.

Believe me, that moment was very memorable... except that, by the final time we see her, she seems to have moved on somewhat. Now, I could understand her finding out that maybe this or that dark art could revive Avere, and then she gets in over her head or such... but deliberate, entirely of her own volition murder? Of even people she looks up to? She didn't even seem slightly remorseful about what she was about to do to you and her old companions...

That just... didn't seem at all like the Edda from MSQ. For all I could relate to her in TT hard, it seems like they might as well have just made a new NPC for the arc. :S

[NovaUltimatum]

Personally I think most of the storyline elements of the game are bit over-hyped by some players, including this side story. It just doesn't seem that emotional or epic because we've barely got to know the NPCs all that much. I think creating an immersive story is exceptionally difficult to do though purely because this is a MMO. That, and I've probably been spoiled too much from the epic storylines of the offline FF games.

[Risvertasashi]

Personally I think most of the storyline elements of the game are bit over-hyped by some players, including this side story. It just doesn't seem that emotional or epic because we've barely got to know the NPCs all that much. I think creating an immersive story is exceptionally difficult to do though purely because this is a MMO. That, and I've probably been spoiled too much from the epic storylines of the offline FF games.

In a way, I think that's it. I mean, it's a well done dungeon from a self contained point of view... But for Edda to suddenly become a remorseless killer? That's one hell of a change with so little development, opposite of where they last left off even. Or at least, that's how it seems from my PoV.

As for epic stories in MMOs... well, XI and XIV 1.0 had cutscenes pretty comparable to offline FF games; I think it could have been done. Even with the time/budget cuts to CSs in 2.0, I found a lot of stuff more immersive than this. Which... has just left me feeling like I missed out on a whole lot of background.

[Laveah]

so I forgot about the torn folios all over the dungeon not sure if you read those or not but they seem to explain how it got to this end result we have with tam tamra hm. here's a reddit post that does a decent job of putting everything together http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._spoilers_all/

[Risvertasashi]

so I forgot about the torn folios all over the dungeon not sure if you read those or not but they seem to explain how it got to this end result we have with tam tamra hm. here's a reddit post that does a decent job of putting everything together http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._spoilers_all/

That is an excellent post. Thanks for linking it. I think, this line in particular:

It is clear now. Edda has lost her mind entirely. I don’t believe she ever regarded the hero as a friend. She knew that Avere did, and that is all that mattered to her.

That I can see adding some plausibility... though I think I'll need to go over the cutscenes and maybe dungeon again to get a feel for it.

Anyway, thanks again.

[Shyluv]

The chick was crazy. Yeah, she admired us. So in her kookoo world, adding the arm of one of their friends, the leg of the other friend, and whatever of the player adventurer would make Avere happy cause his friends are with him forever, and so is the person they both look up to/admire.

It's not that she was evil. Just that she went crazy.

[Wolfandre]

Ehh, you're sorta right about her being nuts, but that sort of stuff should have been evident when we met her again in the main scenario. Doesn't it even say somewhere that she got rid of Avere's head? By the time we see her again, she's moved on and thanks you for being a model to follow. But then, in the torn folios, we're told that she pretty much just dug it back up again and started talking to it and going on dates. It's...kinda odd, I'll agree. Not exactly an appropriate change of pace.

I have a feeling that, since Yoshi said he wanted to give her a happy ending, that what we saw wasn't actually Edda. My guess is that it was just some voidkin that she found in her first visit to Tam Tara that took on her appearance or some other nonsense.

[myahele]

The only happy ending I can see is if she manages to revive Avere (albeit temporary) he tells her to stop doing what shes been doing and she kills herself to join him in the afterlife