LOOT: A Sad Reality

[Prymal_Darkstar]

They must be playing a different game than the rest of us?

You must not really understand the game you are currently playing. Myth and Soldiery is an alternative to loot from Coil. You can still run Coil 1279691734696249786 times and theoretically NEVER get the piece you are looking for.

Myth, Soldiery, Allied Seals, GC Seals, these are all types of currency. Sure, they can be used to purchase gear. But they are not the same thing as a 'Token System'. A token system (used by many other MMOs) is used for raid type content with a lock out. It's used so that a player can eventually get the loot they are going for if RNG continues to fail them.

Again, two different things.

[Woggers]

You must not really understand the game you are currently playing. Myth and Soldiery is an alternative to loot from Coil. You can still run Coil 1279691734696249786 times and theoretically NEVER get the piece you are looking for.

Myth, Soldiery, Allied Seals, GC Seals, these are all types of currency. Sure, they can be used to purchase gear. But they are not the same thing as a 'Token System'. A token system (used by many other MMOs) is used for raid type content with a lock out. It's used so that a player can eventually get the loot they are going for if RNG continues to fail them.

Again, two different things.

Good try, but believe it or not some sold gear is better than coil gear! So you are still getting BiS from tomes which you get from doing dungeons! Yes they do require sands of time, but those are pretty easy to get now.

[Prymal_Darkstar]

You mean like Mythology and Soldiery tomes?

Not the same thing. Unless you think myth/soldiery gear = coil gear. In which case you would be wrong again.

[monochromicorn]

Not the same thing. Unless you think myth/soldiery gear = coil gear. In which case you would be wrong again.

hes refferring to the fact that you do always get something, maybe not gear, but something

[Prymal_Darkstar]

hes refferring to the fact that you do always get something, maybe not gear, but something

Sure. It's nice that you get a little myth and soldiery thrown your way for beating a turn of coil. But does that really do anything? No, not really. It's like a player saying, "I've beaten turn 4 500 times and I've only seen the healer chest piece drop twice, and I lost both rolls." I'm sick of running this, I hope I never step foot in turn 4 again!" But hey you got 20 myth and 15 soldiery...again...yay.

[Kagari_Asuha]

My problem with the loot system is RNG itself. We've had four SCH books and three BLM staffs along with one WHM cane out of Turn 9 and that's just dumb. Really kills the motivation to go back in there when we're met with nothing but repeats. Second chest in there has been sketchy for us too with three monk pants, two DRG belts (back to back no less), two tank rings (which we needed, thankfully) and WHM pants. Personally I would like to see a token system applied to Coil - not only because of the weekly lockout - but because RNG can just be so cruel.

My group has gotten 8 Healer Coats from Turn 7, for example, but we've never seen the Monk Chest despite clearing since the second week of 2.2. There's a handful of other 6-8 items we haven't seen either but it's definitely the Turn 9 repeats that hurt the most. I'm almost convinced the chest in there is bugged at this point.

[Aedrict]

Well I am happy to know that I am not alone with this feeling of frustration. God sincerely, you guys have no idea how much time and effort I have invested in getting the Loot for my BRD (the only job class that I have).

I could clearly remember the time, when I was still farming for my Garuda Spine, because no party would accept me for the Titan HM, if I do not have that weapon with me. It was really a very frustrating and sad thing. Having to see Garuda drop a billion books and not even 1 bow, no matter what party I am in. That was waaaayyyy back October of 2013.

Then there is this problem with the Ultima Accessories, which up until now, it is NEARLY impossible to get. I guess I will have to abandon that one, since nearly all runs for that one ends in disaster or does not even start at all.

[Aedrict]

And yes I do agree with Prymal on this, The Tome weapons are not the same as the Loots. Sorry to say this, but It is not like that at all. The sad part of it all? Is that as the months progress the chances of you getting it, slims down as well. As more and more QUALIFIED PALYERS get their loots, you little by little loose certain party members to play the Trial.

Oh well, I doubt they will change this anyhow.

[Aedrict]

Anything that is based on LUCK, is not really to the advantage of casual players (or any players) 1st-You need to have a lot of time to farm that thing, and even if you do have the time BUT not the luck still your effort will never be rewarded. 2nd- There is the issue of "running out" of suitable parties to play with as time goes by, because most people will not go back to do those trials again if they have their weapons already.

[Aedrict]

About the Tomes, well... at a certain point it might be something to appease the people who just have a billion bad luck curse on them when it comes to loots. But honestly, where is the pride in that? Clearing the Binding Coil for a million times, not getting anything remotely resembling a coil win item, and wearing a tome weapon...saying "I cleared the binding coil a million times, helped a lot of people getting their allagan sets and yes HERE I AM, wearing tomes!" I mean 0.o seriously?