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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    what your describing is called elitism

    if your shell cares about its members, and not just winning, itl take whoever wants to go, not just the best possible setup each time
    and itl gear everyone

    sounds like you got elitist pricks your rolling with
    I can see both sides here. One side just wants to make future runs better, other side is that it's elitism.

    But I'm still going to side with TheVedis. Doesn't matter if the game is this way, catering mostly to just archers is elitism. It's the easiest way to kill things... so what. People should play the game the way they want, and a good group would be ok with that. Everyone equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim_Lion View Post
    Again, its not "them not gearing me up". Its S.E. lack of gear options (archers, mrd, gld, pug, lnc all using the same gear) and pre looting random rolls that a lot of people are not in favor of for other reasons too. ie: AFK people, Lack of being able to see the item, etc.

    There is also no /roll or /random in game to give the loot a second round of offers. The decision needs to be made fast, ususally on the run due to the raid format/strat.
    TROLLLLLL SOME MO GRIM TROLLLL SOME MO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim_Lion View Post
    Again, its not "them not gearing me up". Its S.E. lack of gear options (archers, mrd, gld, pug, lnc all using the same gear) and pre looting random rolls that a lot of people are not in favor of for other reasons too. ie: AFK people, Lack of being able to see the item, etc.

    There is also no /roll or /random in game to give the loot a second round of offers. The decision needs to be made fast, ususally on the run due to the raid format/strat.
    Still, you're blaming the game for the choices people are making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeePee View Post
    Still, you're blaming the game for the choices people are making.
    No. Im asking for an improved loot system, with more functionality, better visability, more controls and options for different loot systems.

    I guess I should have just said that in the first place.

    But like Rick says, its Friday of a long weekend, stuck at work and apparently my inner troll has come alive.
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    I think the problem is that it auto-loots for everyone. However, it would be better if there were a system in place that allows you to see the item and decide from there if you want to try and roll for it. 1v1 or even 1v3 on rolling gives you better odds than 1v7.

    Say you decide to go on a run with a pick-up group, there's one other MRD but he's with a couple of his LS members in the group. The loot that you and the other MRD want drops to one of his LS-mates, so naturally they decide to give it to him. The current system gives people a chance to play favorites, which is the problem. Again, yes, the way people abuse the system isn't fair. However, the problem is that the system CAN be abused in that way and it needs to be fixed and implemented in a better way to prevent further abuse.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    I think the problem is that it auto-loots for everyone. However, it would be better if there were a system in place that allows you to see the item and decide from there if you want to try and roll for it. 1v1 or even 1v3 on rolling gives you better odds than 1v7.
    I think you basically said what Im trying to get across, in much better and clear fashion. Thankyou. Ive got the fridays.
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    i hope to get the old lot/treasur list the one in ff11
    i think it was perfect/fair enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim_Lion View Post
    I think you basically said what Im trying to get across, in much better and clear fashion. Thankyou. Ive got the fridays.
    Not a problem, the Fridays get us all. :P
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    SacredDawnFC.enjin.com
    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    This has been brought up in several threads, and responded to by several different reps as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Hey guys! The dev. team let us know that they are working on a method to allow players to rejoin their instance raid party after being disconnected, and that this should be implemented by patch 1.19! Hurray!

    In regards to the loot system, we are working on implementing a system similar to other MMOs in the future. I also did some digging and saw that we responded twice to this question! Here they are so that you won’t have to dig as far back as I did. See, I’m nice too! :3
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    Completely agree
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    Last edited by Jin_; 07-31-2011 at 08:13 AM.

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