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    QoL for smaller FC houses.

    When chocobo stables were added everyone was excited. That turned into disappointment when it became obvious we had to clean them and that was going to cost. Alot. Just yesterday with the small patch, glazenuts were removed from recipe and yield was increased. Also brooms were made available from estate junkmonger, which @ 20k a piece is still too much imo. So instead of crafters gouging other players, it is now you using it as a gil sink. No ty.

    Not to be suprised, removing glazenuts just made the cost of broombush go up. Where this ties in for houses smaller than the large ones? Gardening and estate npc restrictions.

    I need to grow the foods for our chocobos, crafting mats for brooms, and of course minion requests from members. I can't do that with the garden plot restriction in place all at once or in a timely manner. I think that is an unnecessary restriction. If we even want to buy brooms off junkmonger we have to remove one of the other npc's. The mender is nice and convient when returning from abroad. The material supplier is great for those that are getting into crafting. Junkmonger has the brooms we need and is otherwise useless. Not to mention that there is a Junkmonger npc in the housing area that sells ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    We really need to have the garden plot restriction removed. After all there are FC's that would rather be in large houses but hey, small plots out numbered large ones and we have restrictions forced on us that now feel like some sort of punishment.
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    Last edited by Wulfyn; 08-20-2014 at 07:24 PM.

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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    I'm in the same boat as you, trying to juggle all the different demands on a single garden is tough. That said, I think its a temporary problem, which will be settled in the next patch when personal housing is released. In 2.38 each individual member of our Free Companies will be able to grow their own items or contribute to free company gardening projects.

    It'll add one whole garden for each person in the company, which will be amazingly different than one garden for the whole company.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfyn View Post
    @ 20k
    fix that for you. I can agree about the gardening plot for small house but that is because I am GREEDY. But I dont agree with your complain about the 20k is to expensive. All you need is 40k to make the stable fully clean and it should hold enough for 3-4 days and you say you cant make 40k in 3-4 days alone !? your FC have 22 members, make them work for it.
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    I don't agree with making it a gil sink. And that is exactly what it is. If it weren't for the plot restriction we could make our own brooms. Grow our own chocobo foods. All time consuming and going to take awhile because we have to crossbreed then grow the seeds we obtain. Rinse and repeat. One plot is not enough. Nothing wrong for smaller FC's to want to be self sufficient right?
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    Don't understand. I have private fc with a private house. So, i make gil alone. And i had no problems to buy broom for 80k and did it until my bird reached rank 10. Now i have another problem - with onion.
    Junkmonger can be placed into private room. I dont see any problems to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alx789 View Post
    Don't understand. I have private fc with a private house. So, i make gil alone. And i had no problems to buy broom for 80k and did it until my bird reached rank 10. Now i have another problem - with onion.
    Junkmonger can be placed into private room. I dont see any problems to do this.
    I really hope when individual housing comes out you'll leave that FC plot to a real free company...
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    So you have 3 npcs? If thats the case never thought that would work. We have been dumping gil into crafters... melds, turn ins for books, desynthing for demimaterias and so we can upgrade tools. Also melds on gatherers. Eats up gil fast when your doing that for all the DoH and a couple of people. Like I said, we'd like to be self sufficient as it helps save gil. With the need for various gardening harvests ie: chocobos and crafting, one garden plot does not hack it period.
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    You can place one npc into your private room but others will be unable to accecc it. Only the room owner. I think it's not a problem ask one of your fc members to place junkmonger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I really hope when individual housing comes out you'll leave that FC plot to a real free company...
    I have a problems with raids. I can go there at a very random moments of time only. So, i can't participate static groups. In my conditions i have all i can get from Fc. And private format of it is optimal for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfyn View Post
    I need to grow the foods for our chocobos, crafting mats for brooms, and of course minion requests from members. I can't do that with the garden plot restriction in place all at once or in a timely manner.
    No matter how many plots you have, you can't do it in a timely manner. What you can do is combine those needs and plant according:
    • Almond + Krakka gets you Sylkis Buds and Mandrake
    • replace Almonds with more Almonds
    • replace Krakka with Mandrake for Nymeia Lily
    • replace Almonds with more Almonds
    • replace Mandrake with Nymeia Lily for Broombrush
    • replace Almonds with more Almonds
    • replace Nymeia Lily with Broombrush for more Broombrush
    • replace Almonds with more Sylkis Buds for Thav Onion seeds (and trash seeds)
    • replace Broombrush with more Broombrush
    • replace Sylkis Buds with Almonds and restart
    You might need to repeat some steps, and want to repeat others depending on how lucky you get with your crosses, but this will get you plenty of Broombrush, and a few Onion seeds every month. Hopefully you have a member that has a Botanist retainer for the Almond/Mandrake seeds.
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