Thread: Questionable decisions on patch 2.35

Originally Posted by Miakisaki

This part will not change. The fastest way to bond i45-49 gear now is to get into a dungeon that drops i55-i60 gear and then bond there.

Actually you're wrong about this. The closer your item is to the level of the dungeon, the more SB you get. i48 gear in an i55 dungeon will bond slower than in an i50 dungeon like castrum. Take a look at the tests people have run in the different threads about SBing. You'll see that your best SB rate will come from dungeons that are level appropriate. And no, even though I'm running through castrum is full left and right job appropriate SB gear, I'm technically not leeching or undergeared for the dungeon because it is level appropriate for the gear I'm wearing.

Let me reread the threads again. >< Sudddenly I do recall what you're saying. But even so, I doubt very many will run into i60 dungeons in full i48 gear. Most people only SB accessories still while wearing their normal left side equips. This puts them at an i70+ ilvl and they're still overgeared for those dungeons. The issue was with people going into i80+ dungeons like ST and then unequipping their stuff until they were i50. That's why this change was made. Though if multitudes of people at running into i60 dungeons in full i48 then yes it is a problem.

And I see what you mean by your change and I like it as long as we get to keep our increased SB rates.

Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope

Actually there was a VERY good reason why SE made the change they did. It was to stop people from running into dungeons WAY UNDERgeared and then expecting the rest of the party to carry them. I will admit that I used to SB job appropriate i50 gear in i70+ dungeons while doing roulettes. Since the change I actually find that as a serial SBer, I have BENEFITED greatly. The increased SB rate has actually helped me SB way more than I have before. The ones who have been inconvenienced are the casual SBers. Since the change was targeted towards them in the first place, I will say that SE has achieved its goal.

You say that yet there was no reason to mess with Sbing on overworld.... is there? As if SA4 and SM iv are not expensive enough. According to report, the SB rate of the i49 gear(where most of the tier iv materia come from) is around the same at Urth from before the patch. Now here is the next question, if this is target for the causal sber, they are doing it WRONG. A causal sber is not going to urth to sb, nor will they queue up Castrum only for sb, they mainly just buy a few cheap of cheap i49 stuff on mb and go sb at either expert routtle/ST and use it to work on novus on the side or sell for allowance. Now if they are using i100 stuff on the left side and us i49 stuff on right side they should still be around i70, which is within the entry ilvl for ST and the expert routtle. No real harm is done as long as they got good weapon but now the casual can't even sb casually. This will decrease the supply t4 of the materia.

I truly feel sorry for those people who are stuill working on novus and want SA/SM build. It is as if SE do not want us to stabilize the price of the tier 4 materia.

A large flaw of this materia change however is how i70 and i90 crafted gear is gated behind.

Getting 9 of some GC item is not exactly easy to obtain, assuming your doing everything yourself, crafting the i70 takes some marginal effort even for NQ.

Getting 45 of some GC item to get the Masterbook to then grab the other materials to get the i90 crafts is not easy either.

I agree the materia change is pretty detrimental for the market. The Tier IV will inevitably rise again. They could however remedy the issue with high level materia from this patch, if they allowed dungeon exclusive gear to be converted as well. Would add an influx of Tier III and Tier IV materia and give use to running dungeon content.

At the moment, making crafted gear the best and largely the only option for obtaining the Tier IV materia is the real problem with this change.

Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

Biggest annoyance:
Chocobo dyeing being dependent on having a FC House/Stable (and requiring gardening + 6 hour waiting periods, just because)

fixed it a bit, you only need a house with a garden (personal housing is coming with 2.38)
We all known this since 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...SH2jkjw#t=3737

And you can also buy the fruits in the MB some weeks later.

Originally Posted by Tupsi

The only issue, they didn't bring in chocobo breeding to make it make even more logical sense.

I guess they wait until golden saucer before they bring chocobo breeding. It could be chocobo race releated