Allied Seals

[Virin]

No.. Just no. I am forced into dungeons I don't want to do enough through roulette and atma books. I enjoy grouping up in the PF with people and just casually hunting. Losing the B ranks which were a nice time killer between A and S spawns already annoys me. I don't want to mindlessly grind dungeons for everything.

[Zarzak]

Why are they hunt exclusive? Why not have them as a reward for dungeons. Expert roulettes should have 100 allied seal reward and high should have 50. Then just doing the 3 new dungeons should give 10 or 20 seals.

They let people solo raid loot. Now they complain that the way they solo raid loot isn't good enough.

[Wadoka]

B Ranks still hit too hard for an i90 DRG/WHM to solo, but they go down pretty quick once my husband's i90 WAR joined in.

I watched a Monk in the red/black Monk gear almost - ALMOST solo Ovjang last night, with his Chocobo. Ovjang had just a sliver of health left when the Monk went down (his bird kept fighting!)

I was caught in the gear change timer too late to help but when I was able to act me and the bird finished Ovjang off in about 10 seconds and our downed Monk got his credit

[ChiefCurrahee]

Obviously SE hates their dungeon design and wants people to spend none of their time there, Coil and CT as well.

[Luvbunny]

Obviously SE hates their dungeon design and wants people to spend none of their time there, Coil and CT as well.

I suspect this as well, they bend over backwards to make sure no one has any good reasons to do dungeons anymore. The patches fixed Hunt to a degree but not good enough. Why A and S rank still reward tomes is beyond me... It should be clear definition, if you want seals, you hunt, if you want tome, you do dungeons, trials, or raids. Easy simple and gives people reasons to do dungeons.

Or just make ALL last Boss on dungeons, raids, and trials can randomly drop oils (and/or) sands, albeit at lower rate when you do easy peasy dungeons and higher rate for Coil V.1 or Labyrinth of the Ancients.

I don't understand why they don't get it.... the main reason people do Hunt is because it gives unlimited sand and oils. If they disperse the distribution of sand and oils to dungeons where you can have a chance of getting it from last boss (with various degree of certainty depending on difficulties) - you effectively making Hunt as not the only way to get unlimited oil and sand.

Hunt should be supplemental activities, things you do during downtime waiting for dungeons or raid runs, it should never become the ONLY thing to do because it gives you the best reward that trumps all other content in the game...

[Thrustie]

It's kind of ironic that hunters got all defensive when raiders were salty about them getting gear that was supposed to come from raids. Now they're getting all salty at the idea of dungeon clearers getting the same reward as they do for hunts.

No.. Just no. I am forced into dungeons I don't want to do enough through roulette and atma books. I enjoy grouping up in the PF with people and just casually hunting. Losing the B ranks which were a nice time killer between A and S spawns already annoys me. I don't want to mindlessly grind dungeons for everything.

He's suggesting adding it to dungeons, not taking it away from hunts. How would this affect you? Right now he's forced into "mindlessly grinding" hunts for seals so how is it any different?

[SendohJin]

Please add GC seal exchange for Allied seals. Even if the exchange rate is like 50k GC's for 250 Allied.

Wolf Marks too.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Open PF
Join hunt pt
???
Progress

Wonder if that's all you read, considering I said joining hunt party really is irksome when the mob barely stays visible for long enough for me to get credit. Which is why I suggest it going to dungeons.

[FriendlyUncle]

No.. Just no. I am forced into dungeons I don't want to do enough through roulette and atma books. I enjoy grouping up in the PF with people and just casually hunting. Losing the B ranks which were a nice time killer between A and S spawns already annoys me. I don't want to mindlessly grind dungeons for everything.

I never suggested it be removed from hunts, and it shouldn't really. I find it enjoyable to do with my shell from time to time. But do I want to sit in a group teleporting and running in circles all day like a mad man doing them? Does everyone else? What harm does add 25-50 Allied Seals to Low Level roulette, only obtainable once per day like the Tomestone bonus? Especially when an A rank hunt gives what, 80 myth and 20 sol? The change I am suggesting is minor it may draw more people to do Low Level dungeon at cap other than now where it is mostly overlook unless in dire need of Myth.(Again, hunts can fill that gap as well now) This also gives people a chance to gain some Seals when they may no have time to sit and wait out timers for several hours.

In addition I see NO harm in making Allied Seals available from GC Supply/Provisioning missions. Albeit at a much lower ratio compared to GSC, and scale up with level as GSC currently does, and possible only available on high demand items. (Items with Stars next to them) This also gives people who primarily craft, or don't want the mindless zerg a means to earn these credits in small amounts. 15-20 seals for a high demand Supply/Provisioning item. This may need to be adjusted obviously due to people having multiple crafting professions rather high-level or cap to prevent them from earning a massive amount of Allied Seals.

Another huge issue with hunts as they are is just as said, its a zerg. Some players, I know my fiance plays on PS3(I did warn her) but at times there are so many people present that by the time the monster loads for her it has all ready been killed. This becomes incredibly frustrating and is leading to some serious vitriol from people missing hunt targets or their elite bill mark. Hunts ARE broken and this latest patch has helped some, at least for people just trying to do their weekly bills. Personally, I think they should add a separate hunt system similar to something XI had in its darker years. You kill a hunt mark to obtain a spawn item to summon one of several other monsters and like Leves only your group could engage the target. Give it a small reward and a new(or chance) to obtain a summon item for another set of monsters.

The system can branch out, can be done on your own time rather than constant spawn timers and rushing around hoping to make it to a given location before something gets mobbed down. All slowly building up to big-bad-boss which might have a chance to drop a some what nice piece of gear (Nothing coil or EX related, not yet), maybe minions, a unique mount, and of course - Allied Seals.

Sorry, that was a bit long winded.

[Barboron]

So by that logic, shouldn't soldiery and myth be exclusive to dungeons trials so that it has value? Should we remove tomes from hunts then?

Here, I found this for you with a simple google search.