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  1. #11
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    Ejell's Avatar
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    Ejell Whut
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    There is actually no class which is better without the job crystal equipped. The job benefits more from the gear's stats (has been proved by theorycrafters) and this is far better than keeping 3 cooldowns.
    Furthermore in the case of SMN, the fester and contagion spell are powerfull, playing without them is a great loss, and you still have access to Raging strike and Swiftcast...

    Just as a reminder, with keeping the same stuff, you'll earn between 5% and 10% dps from your gear only with job's equipped, and a Blood for Blood gives 10% for 20s every 80, same as constant 2.5%.
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  2. #12
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    ICEFANG13's Avatar
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    Icefang Thirteen
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ejell View Post
    There is actually no class which is better without the job crystal equipped. The job benefits more from the gear's stats (has been proved by theorycrafters) and this is far better than keeping 3 cooldowns.
    Furthermore in the case of SMN, the fester and contagion spell are powerfull, playing without them is a great loss, and you still have access to Raging strike and Swiftcast...

    Just as a reminder, with keeping the same stuff, you'll earn between 5% and 10% dps from your gear only with job's equipped, and a Blood for Blood gives 10% for 20s every 80, same as constant 2.5%.
    Could you explain what you mean, why does the job get more power from the same items? The current ilevel115 weapons and armoretc 110 stuff can be used on the ACN and the SMN equally and provide the same stats. Does the SMN get more?

    I would agree with you 100% if Contagion was not usable, but you actually can use it, it just has the level requirement of 40 to use.
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  3. #13
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    Teresa Faintsmile
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    No party would take a ACN just fyi. Not only do you lose 10% of all stats, losing fester is like losing a 1/4 of your damage.

    Only class that is situationally better then job is maradar in pvp, and its not even by much.
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  4. #14
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    Icefang Thirteen
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NightReach View Post
    No party would take a ACN just fyi. Not only do you lose 10% of all stats, losing fester is like losing a 1/4 of your damage.

    Only class that is situationally better then job is maradar in pvp, and its not even by much.
    Oh I understand now, I was not aware that the crystal would increase your stats by 10%, that makes sense. That would mean, like you said, there really isn't a viable class for end game. Thank you!
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  5. #15
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    Character
    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NightReach View Post
    No party would take a ACN just fyi. Not only do you lose 10% of all stats, losing fester is like losing a 1/4 of your damage.

    Only class that is situationally better then job is maradar in pvp, and its not even by much.
    You lose about 20 INT / Fester / Spur and Enkindle.

    I'm not sure you can recover the DPS loss from that with just internal Release and Blood for Blood.
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  6. #16
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    Ardan's Avatar
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    Ardan Lauriers
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Not to mention the loss of some potency off of your pet's main attack. It's a 10 potency difference between Wind Blade and Gust I think it was?
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  7. #17
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    Character
    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    It's been proven many times that ACN is inferior to SMN at DPS many times everytime somebody comes up with the idea.

    The buffs you get don't make up for the int or skills from the soul crystal.
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  8. #18
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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ICEFANG13 View Post
    My third question was a comparison between the Arcanist Class, equipped with Blood for Blood, and Internal Release, and the Summoner Job, with the normal stuff available to them.
    if so, the reply is same as others, B4B, IR can't make up for loss of stat point, Fester, Pet dmg, Pet skills.
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