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  1. #11
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    starLivitation's Avatar
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    Starfish Melody
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    It isn't that bad compared to CT. when you think of it queue times will probably increase due to the penalty.

    If I afk for a bit and come back only to find my registration was withdrawn then I'll have to start over from the bottom.
    yes ct is far worse, i had trouble getting the first clear for my alt about 2 weeks ago. but the problem with ct isn't just the accepting party, its more that it's old content that most seasoned players don't need anymore. hope it will change with the new changes to spirit bind though, if some people can find the exact gear level optimized for spirit bind in that dungen it should work well with the new changes in the last patch.
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  2. #12
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I think I understand the some people's situation though. Well, you see when you hit queue up for the dungeon, and the system throw you the more than 30 minutes wait time. Who would have thought that the duty will randomly pop at 5-10 minutes mark though? To me, well, I was still around reading while waiting so I can still click commence when the queue arrive early, but for some people they might be away preparing food or might be in the toilet or something~
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  3. #13
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    Tomba Labomba
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Since CT and CT2 exist, I think I had one run where CT started at first attempt. The rest is "someone has withdrawn...." over and over. So Yes for penalties. if some people think they are better than others, they should be given some time to think it over.
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  4. #14
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    you have the other way around, you wait for hours and nothing, then when it pops up you have something else to do or are in the mid of something that you cant leave....should those people be sanctionned? the only solution is...remove kick from any places and enforce more strict sanctions against those that abuse of the system. I prefer people that refuse to log in when it pops then people that log in and after a wipe simply delog as to avoid penalty I have run an entire evening crossing path with that guy that continously did that.

    Mei
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  5. #15
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    Andros Dyrstwyrn
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    As I see it a progressive approach could ease situation.

    1st withdrawal : 1 minute lock out => whatever you are doing if you failed to accept just 1 more minute will not kill you
    2nd withdrawal in the 10 minutes window after 1st : 5 mns lockout => finish what you are doing
    3rd withdrawal in a 10 minutes window after 2nd : the full penalty 30mn => you can't be serious focus on what you are doing.
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    Last edited by Thaliss; 08-20-2014 at 08:29 PM.

  6. #16
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    Megami017's Avatar
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    Popcorn Chicken
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    You'd think SE would(or could) fix the ques for Alliances, just like they did with Frontlines.

    What's stopping them from applying the same fix to Duty Finder ques & Alliance(Raid)ques?

    We all know how annoying it is to wait 30 or more minutes(Sometimes hours) only to get a low blow via "A party member has withdrawn" drama, BS.
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  7. #17
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Ragnarok
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    Vote abandon fix is easy. If it's rejected then the person initiating it should be removed automatically with a 30 minute penalty. They already decided they want to leave when they initiated the vote, so why keep them? It has no effect when the vote is passed because the group as a whole wants to leave.
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  8. #18
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The problem with CT is the fact that it is "older" content with outdated gears that nobody needs unless you want to glamour. The reward is not good enough. What they should have done is to bump up 250 myth, 50 soldiery, and 30 allied seals for Labyrinth of Ancients. On top of that, last Boss is guaranteed to drop one oil and one sand for the whole alliance to loot. You can only loot either one - the other will be locked once you cast vote - per run only. That will give people enough incentive since there is no lock out on the sand and oil - which is already "outdated" by the wreck-tastic that is The Hunt.
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  9. #19
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    Unfortunately there is nothing SE can do. Let's look at it another way, why do you want to tell other's how they should play? The fact is back in alpha and beta we told everyone this would happen but they all said no it wont and here we are today. You all asked for it now you dont like it well its really too bad as we all warned you it would happen. No matter what SE dose player's will still continue to do what you dont like but by restricting all players just so you can do something isnt gonna help matter's either. I pay for this game to but if I want to withdraw for whatever reason thats my choice, I and everyone else should not be penalized because we went to do something else.
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  10. #20
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Vote abandon fix is easy. If it's rejected then the person initiating it should be removed automatically with a 30 minute penalty. They already decided they want to leave when they initiated the vote, so why keep them? It has no effect when the vote is passed because the group as a whole wants to leave.
    this is probably the most silly post I have seen in a long while. Ever thought for even a second that maybe the guy that initiate teh abandon actually truely believe that there is really no hope ? that is why there is a vote. you submit a proposal and is either accepted or refused...why should there be a punishment for the one that initiate such ???
    Mei
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