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  1. #1
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    starLivitation's Avatar
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    Conjurer Lv 80

    ST Queue , penalty for not accepting please!

    SE please do something. i am paying customer since launch, i beg that you do something about the ST queues with people declining its been a long time and there is no fix yet, i thot the last patch would fix it, but its still not fixed even now, i am waiting for nearly 1 hour because people not accept the duty.

    there is a very simple solution for this, please just do something, try something new. from another game, leage of legends people who do not select a chamption in the selection stage will have 5 minute ban.

    you can do something about it, it's a simple as that. make a 5 minute ban for somoene who does not accept an ST/CT queue. you can keep it the same for other dungens because its not a big issue. if the same person does it again, the wait time can be icreased to 15m or 30m as well, maybe upto 1 hour.

    I Beg of you SE i love this game , but the queue system is being abused by players who only seek to join active party and get loot without doing the whole dungen. which as we all know is ok, but if they keep re-queue and decline and do it over 10 times in a row, delaying others in the queue then this is a serius problem.

    normally i do not complain or raise such issues in the forum, i think somoene would have complained already about it anyway, but i see the lack of will from SE to find a solution to this problem, maybe you are worried that a paying customer willl be upset by such a penalty because he was fighting a Fate and could not accept? what about the other 23 paying customers in the queue that have to suffer because he wants to finish this fate? please consider the rest of us too, not just that person we are all paying customers and loyal to this game. please find us a solution to this, i want to queue ST and when my queue comes up i should not have to deal with this problem for hours, ty!
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    Last edited by starLivitation; 08-20-2014 at 09:46 AM.

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    Surian Bedivere
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    Also put a 30 minute lockout on whoever proposes a "Vote Abandon". It's irritating enough i have to redo entire dungeons because of some spamming troll throwing that up till people get tired of it and accept. Least it can do is lock the person out who wanted to get out of the dungeon for another 30 minutes. That'll make people stop doing it unless it's really needed.
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Surian View Post
    Also put a 30 minute lockout on whoever proposes a "Vote Abandon". It's irritating enough i have to redo entire dungeons because of some spamming troll throwing that up till people get tired of it and accept. Least it can do is lock the person out who wanted to get out of the dungeon for another 30 minutes. That'll make people stop doing it unless it's really needed.
    They could just leave then, no point to vote abandon. Perhaps add a maximum amount of times a particular player can vote abandon, or a check box that says "no to all" since I imagine some people accept on accident or are annoyed by the screen.

    As per OP if possible I think it would be reasonable to have a 1-5 minute wait, being able to queue for anything else at the same time (perhaps 30 seconds per decline, exponential growth max 30 min). Also I would hope anybody that hit accept gets preference for the next group ready to go, trying to find groups for the accepted players faster since they are actually saying "I'm here and ready".
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-20-2014 at 08:50 AM.

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    2 easy ideas to end all the grief:
    1st: get rid of the leaving a duty penalty. the annoyance of backfilling a slot was far less then the griefing being done now. Adding time to penalties just makes them afk, troll ect

    2nd: add an option to join a duty in progress only.

    result of these two fixes: Someone wants out, let em leave and someone will jump right in to finish the fight
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    Syanonn Rias
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    30 min for queue withdrawl
    30 min for vote abandon
    30 min for making dead horse threads

    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    i am paying customer since laugh
    I don't know when laugh is, but I played 1.0

    LISTEN TO MEH~ I GIV U MONIES SE!

    /derp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    2 easy ideas to end all the grief:
    1st: get rid of the leaving a duty penalty. the annoyance of backfilling a slot was far less then the griefing being done now. Adding time to penalties just makes them afk, troll ect

    2nd: add an option to join a duty in progress only.

    result of these two fixes: Someone wants out, let em leave and someone will jump right in to finish the fight
    Vote kick solves solution 1, knowing hunts, odin, behemoth, and FC activities I would really not like to see a penalty for leaving removed. I think that if you add a join in progress only that you would end up slowing down the start of content, since you'd separate the lines - buuut I've also never programed a network larger than a few people so.... I'm not confident enough to say that "will" happen.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-20-2014 at 08:53 AM.

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    Crystal Dreams
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    Yeah, whenever I try to sign up for ST (as a healer, mind you, it's all I do combat wise and you'd think it'd get me in quick too) the group is almost full so I don't feel like I can do anything because it could pop any second. That feeling is usually compounded by the fact that it does actually come up within a minute or two. I confirm and then it's a false alarm as someone withdraws. I'm likely to spend the next hour confirming duties that don't go ahead, time that I would much rather spend crafting or gathering or doing other things but feel that I can't because the duty keeps trying to start.

    Any official help with this would be greatly appreciated.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    It isn't that bad compared to CT. when you think of it queue times will probably increase due to the penalty.

    If I afk for a bit and come back only to find my registration was withdrawn then I'll have to start over from the bottom.
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Make In Progress and Fresh Start Commence windows look exactly the same. Even in a pre-form you only see your single roll ready to Commence. That way you have no idea and can't fish for in progress. If you still want to leave a fresh start eat the penalty and leave, at least everyone else is in and doesn't have to wait.

    At the same time make it so we can invite people from inside a dungeon. That removes the "fishing for my friend's run to help" excuse. I've done that and it is annoying I have to gamble RNG if I am able to help my friends.

    Then, only dish out loot after the final boss. Each boss you roll, doesn't get dropped until final boss. That also removes the "loot and scoot" crowd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    30 min for queue withdrawl
    30 min for vote abandon
    30 min for making dead horse threads



    I don't know when laugh is, but I played 1.0

    LISTEN TO MEH~ I GIV U MONIES SE!

    /derp
    sorry meant since the launch of the game. i will edit it now
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