ST Queue , penalty for not accepting please!

[Mykll]

Make In Progress and Fresh Start Commence windows look exactly the same. Even in a pre-form you only see your single roll ready to Commence. That way you have no idea and can't fish for in progress. If you still want to leave a fresh start eat the penalty and leave, at least everyone else is in and doesn't have to wait.

At the same time make it so we can invite people from inside a dungeon. That removes the "fishing for my friend's run to help" excuse. I've done that and it is annoying I have to gamble RNG if I am able to help my friends.

Then, only dish out loot after the final boss. Each boss you roll, doesn't get dropped until final boss. That also removes the "loot and scoot" crowd.

[Neri]

I think I understand the some people's situation though. Well, you see when you hit queue up for the dungeon, and the system throw you the more than 30 minutes wait time. Who would have thought that the duty will randomly pop at 5-10 minutes mark though? To me, well, I was still around reading while waiting so I can still click commence when the queue arrive early, but for some people they might be away preparing food or might be in the toilet or something~

[TomTom1968]

Since CT and CT2 exist, I think I had one run where CT started at first attempt. The rest is "someone has withdrawn...." over and over. So Yes for penalties. if some people think they are better than others, they should be given some time to think it over.

[MeiUshu]

you have the other way around, you wait for hours and nothing, then when it pops up you have something else to do or are in the mid of something that you cant leave....should those people be sanctionned? the only solution is...remove kick from any places and enforce more strict sanctions against those that abuse of the system. I prefer people that refuse to log in when it pops then people that log in and after a wipe simply delog as to avoid penalty I have run an entire evening crossing path with that guy that continously did that.

Mei

[Dwill]

you have the other way around, you wait for hours and nothing, then when it pops up you have something else to do or are in the mid of something that you cant leave....should those people be sanctionned? the only solution is...remove kick from any places and enforce more strict sanctions against those that abuse of the system. I prefer people that refuse to log in when it pops then people that log in and after a wipe simply delog as to avoid penalty I have run an entire evening crossing path with that guy that continously did that.

Mei

If you can't commit to it, don't queue. If any an emergency arise, then leave the queue. How hard is that ?

[MeiUshu]

If you can't commit to it, don't queue. If any an emergency arise, then leave the queue. How hard is that ?

it is not hard but if you wait for a long time before you can enter and you have no clues when you going to enter what you do ? nothign ? ..what was proposed which prompted my answer is the silliest thing I have heard, besides the person that withdraw before it enters does no arm to anybody besides the fact that the person that withdrew did it because was unable to commit isnt it what you are asking right ?, you were waiting you will just wait some more, what will happen with that suggestion is that people will enter, sit and wait to be kicked or just leave in the mid of the dungeon leaving you all with no replacement (depending on the class that left) how is that better ?... sometimes you really really should think hard before coming out with some dumb ideas that wont solve anything

Mei

[Dwill]

it is not hard but if you wait for a long time before you can enter and you have no clues when you going to enter what you do ? nothign ? ..what was proposed which prompted my answer is the silliest thing I have heard, besides the person that withdraw before it enters does no arm to anybody besides the fact that the person that withdrew did it because was unable to commit isnt it what you are asking right ?, you were waiting you will just wait some more, what will happen with that suggestion is that people will enter, sit and wait to be kicked or just leave in the mid of the dungeon leaving you all with no replacement (depending on the class that left) how is that better ?... sometimes you really really should think hard before coming out with some dumb ideas that wont solve anything

Mei

Or you could, you know, just withdraw from the queue preemptively and not wait until it pops ? I'd rather wait a few more minutes and have 2-4 withdraws than the 10-15+ we get nowadays. Being minus one or two in ST is really not the issue here, the place can be completed quite easily with a few people missing.

I stand by my point, if you can't commit, don't queue or if an emergency arise, leave preemptively.

[Thaliss]

As I see it a progressive approach could ease situation.

1st withdrawal : 1 minute lock out => whatever you are doing if you failed to accept just 1 more minute will not kill you
2nd withdrawal in the 10 minutes window after 1st : 5 mns lockout => finish what you are doing
3rd withdrawal in a 10 minutes window after 2nd : the full penalty 30mn => you can't be serious focus on what you are doing.

[Megami017]

You'd think SE would(or could) fix the ques for Alliances, just like they did with Frontlines.

What's stopping them from applying the same fix to Duty Finder ques & Alliance(Raid)ques?

We all know how annoying it is to wait 30 or more minutes(Sometimes hours) only to get a low blow via "A party member has withdrawn" drama, BS.

[Xenor]

Vote abandon fix is easy. If it's rejected then the person initiating it should be removed automatically with a 30 minute penalty. They already decided they want to leave when they initiated the vote, so why keep them? It has no effect when the vote is passed because the group as a whole wants to leave.