Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[Sadana]

May not hurt to collate these food mixes by color in one post...
Millioncorn Yellow

After being fed 2 apples

Fruits used: x5 O'Ghomoro Berries / x5 Mammok Pears / x5 Xelphatol Apples
Desert Yellow --> Millioncorn Yellow

I gave mine 10 apples (red) and it's still millioncorn.

12:05 Sunflower devours the Xelphatol apple.
12:05 Sunflower's plumage will change in 6 hours
12:05 Sunflower devours the Xelphatol apple.
12:06 Sunflower devours the Xelphatol apple.
12:06 Sunflower is beginning to grow new feathers!
12:06 Sunflower's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.
12:06 Sunflower devours the Xelphatol apple.
12:06 Sunflower is beginning to grow new feathers!
12:06 Sunflower's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.

eta: result Millioncorn Yellow

Honey Yellow

rather disappointing result after 36x of all 3 "Lightening" feeds. Oh well

Fed x3 Cieldalaes Pineapples (lightens the blue hues) and the result was Honey Yellow.

Cork Brown

Someone on reddit posted his chocobo after feeding 3 Apples and 3 O'Ghomoro Berries. It became Cork Brown

Ul Brown

3 O'Ghomoro Berries produced 'UI Brown'

Cream Yellow

doman plum x5
vlafruit x6
cieldalaes pineapple x4
My choco is now cream yellow R:241, G:212, B:105

I got Cream Yellow with only 4 pineapples, and 3 plums. No valfruit.

Regal Purple

17 Deepen Blue, 15 Deepen Red, 18 Lighten Green = Regal Purple!

Celeste Green

From reddit:
"Just been given word that someone in my FC fed his boko 28 doman plums and got Celeste Green"
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ogress/cjwoftv

since the 36x 3 "lightenings", 27 more Plums and this is the result:

mostly just a reminder for me, but next up: 3x omgh berry, 2x valfruit & 5 cield pineapple (only pineapples gave the "Begins to grow new feathers, every one of them 5.) it was also fed on that order. gonna see in the mornin

Gobbiebag Brown

O'ghomoro Berries x8

Sunset Orange

spent 22 apples and 3 berries to get Sunset Orange

Othard Blue

Gave mine 30 darken blue and 10 darken green and got Othard Blue. https://imageshack.com/i/paJdSC6Dp

20 O'ghomoro Berries in one sitting got me Othard Blue.

Raptor Blue

FCmate fed 21 O'ghomoro Berries, got Raptor Blue. Didn't take a screenshot, but I can confirm. Saw in person.

Sylph Green

Apparently 2 apples + 12 Doman Plums + 1 mamook pear = sylph green chocobo
http://imgur.com/8V5GXvW

Coral Pink

Coral Pink: x4 Deepen Red / x4 Deepen Blue / x4 Lighthen Green

I also received Coral Pink after 1x Apple in my first feeding (last night), and then 2x Apple, 10x Berries this morning.

Coral Pink: 7 Darken Red and 13 Darken Blue

Coral Pink: 10 Valfruit + 4 O'Ghomoro Berries

Just got coral pink from 9x apple, 6x Ogho blueberries, 7x valfruit.
I feel like a flamingo. :P

Lime Green

7 pears + 2 berries gave me a lime green mintcobo
http://imgur.com/WPSYyGn

Apple Green

So I was going for Celeste green, and I ended up with apple green... Still pretty!
I'm not sure what the actual names of the fruits were, but I know it was 10 darken blue, 5 darken green, and 3 lighten red.

I've got Apple Green with 5 plums, 7 berries and 3 pears.

Slate Grey

Got exactly what I wanted first try, a Slate Grey choco ^.^

I fed 21 O'ghomo berries (darken blue), 7 Xelpatol Apples (darken red), and 7 mamook green things (darken green).

Pumpkin Orange

1 Pear
25 Apples
2 Plums
10 Pineapples
13 Valfruit
= Pumpkin Orange.

Salmon Pink

http://imgur.com/rZOgMiF
salmon pink, fed 4x valfruit, 3x doman, 8x o'ghomoro, and 3x cieldalaes pineapple

5 Valfruit (lighten green) gave Salmon Pink

Ash Grey

Fc mate made got ash grey
6 or 7 darken blue, 3 lighten red, 3 lighten green, 6 darken green
http://imgur.com/68THsmL

I wanted blue, but I suppose this is good for science.
I also got Ash Grey but with very different feeds: 12 berries > 10 pineapples > 6 berries (18 berries total).

Blood Red

So here is Blood Red, took 14x Valfruit, 14x O'Ghomoro Berries, and 14x Xelphatol Apples in this order. I did 1 of each in a row till 14 had been used.

Rose Pink

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._pink_chocobo/

Left - Coral Pink
Right - Rose Pink - 3 Berries, 3 Valfruit

Royal Blue

Royal Blue: 30 Darken Blue, 10 Darken Red

Royal Blue
85 O'Ghomora Berries

http://i.imgur.com/3VGa2yZ.png?1

Gloom Purple

Gloom Purple chocobo!

Got it by feeding 24 O'Ghomoro Berries, 3 Xelphatol Apples. All in one go.
It's exactly what I wanted, I'm so lucky =P

Colibri Pink

Colibri pink
source: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen.../colibri_pink/
Doman Plum x7, Valfruit x8

Ice Blue

Fed mine with 22 Doman Plum and 7 Valfruits for science. Got the color (Ice Blue) i wanted, i think im lucky o.o
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...33#post2381833

Abyssal Blue

Abyssal Blue: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...aldgoat_brown/

My first session was: 3 berries, 1 pear, 1 apple to get Aldgoat Brown
Second session: 20 berries, 10 pears, 8 apples to get Abyssal Blue
My current session I believe will yield me Soot Black, time to wait another 6 hours.

Bone White

doman plum x5
vlafruit x6
cieldalaes pineapple x4

My choco is now cream yellow R:241, G:212, B:105
After this i gave him 2 plums and 1 pineapple, to decrease red and increase blue, and the result is Bone white, now i'm gonna feed him more pineapples to get closer to snow white.

[Nyalia]

Basically if you look at the RGB value as three numbers like so: [R, G, B], the current theory is that the effects actually work like this:

LIGHTEN BLUE: [=, =, +B]
DEEPEN BLUE : [-R, -G, =]

LIGHTEN RED: [+R, =, =]
DEEPEN RED : [=, -G, -B]

LIGHTEN GREEN: [=, +G, =]
DEEPEN GREEN : [-R, =, -B]

Thus, to bring out blue, you have to use both the Lighten and Deepen fruits.

I'm pretty sure this is incorrect from what I've observed. What I expect is something more like:

LIGHTEN BLUE: [++R, ++G, -B] (washes out the blue)
DEEPEN BLUE : [--R, --G, +B] (makes the blue more prominent)

LIGHTEN RED: [-R, ++G, ++B] (washes out the red)
DEEPEN RED : [+R, --G, --B] (makes the red more prominent)

LIGHTEN GREEN: [++R, -G, ++B] (washes out the green)
DEEPEN GREEN : [--R, +G, --B] (makes the green more prominent)

Also, it looks like the change is at least somewhat dependent on the current value. Deepening Blue when Blue is really low seems to increase it a fair amount, but Deepening Red when it's already extremely high seems to do little to nothing to it.

My belief is that the chocobos have an internal RGB value that the snacks modify. The color we get is the closest dye color that the game can match to the actual internal RGB value. This means that two chocobos could have the same color, but very different internal values, so future changes affect the two differently.

So, there is no R:0, G:255, B:0 color in the dye database. If you managed to get this internal value, I'd expect to see something like Cactaur Green. Cactaur Green is actually R:94, G:123, B:58, but it's the dye with the most Green relative to Red and Blue. Another possibility is Adamantoise Green, which also has more green than red or blue, but the red and blue are more equal. However, that's only R:88, G:110, B:81 - the green is hardly that much higher than the red or blue.

This is, of course, just a theory.

[JakzChurchill]

8 Berries resulted in the gobbiebag brown color. I originally posted it, and has miscounted what I had left in my inventory. I updated my post not a minute later, but apparently it never got corrected.

Quick we must return to the drawing board. Maths ahoy!

Okay that doesn't change how the results pan out all too much. There still isn't a common result between the two, I accidently only grew the berries and they shall be pickable in a few hours so i'll try 15 or 16 berries and see if we can determine a common rate of change

First we have Gobbiebag Brown, created using 8 berries to get a total change of [-36,-17,+50] This means each feed was worth [-4.5, -2.1, 6.2]

Raptor Blue has been created using 21 Berries for a total of [-132, -55, +108] Making each feed worth [-6.2, -2.6, 5.14]

[laoni]

Anyone got Rose Pink yet?

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._pink_chocobo/

[Nyalia]

Well this is not what I had in mind lol, hopefully when I get more blue fruits to grow, I can get it purple! (Shared the rest of my blues with FC mate). So here is Blood Red, took 14x Valfruit, 14x O'Ghomoro Berries, and 14x Xelphatol Apples in this order. I did 1 of each in a row till 14 had been used.

Try feeding him ~4 more Valfruit and 3 more Berries. You need to raise the blue.

[Damifino]

Eh, I'm gonna have to express my Disagreeance with that idea. I read the posts you're referring to, but prior to that I read that for example Darkening blue adds a small amount of blue and reduces a decent amount of red and green, Lightening blue might reduce a small amount of blue and add red and green. I feel like that lines up better with all the different colors we are seeing after a single session, because this idea supports what we are experiencing with people getting the same results with different combinations.

Either way, I certainly don't feel we're at the point where "probably" is applicable towards the idea of being affected by a single food.

OK, disagree if you like, but the fella I quoted use ALL 3 "lighten" fruits, and ended up with the same color as my single fruit experiment using 1/3 of the quantity ......


Suddenly the math becomes more clear, yes?


And I still think all these RGB measurements need to be taken in a SINGLE lighting scenario......

[Yahtzee]

Coral Pink: 7 Darken Red and 13 Darken Blue
Royal Blue: 30 Darken Blue, 10 Darken Red

Not sure if I fed it too much blue (or if there's a cap to it)... kind of stuffed it like a thanksgiving turkey.

[Steady]

THe choco will eat as much as you feed it. I fed two plums.... but didn't wait 6 hrs between them. I wonder if I'll have two adjustments or just one...

[Solarak]

Left - Coral Pink
Right - Rose Pink - 3 Berries, 3 Valfruit

[Nyalia]

To the people that are trying to math this with hard numbers, remember that we don't have every conceivable color here. We're working with a fixed set of colors due to the dye limitations. This means that multiple combinations will yield the same colors (but probably with different internal values) since not every color can be represented.

I have been looking at trends rather than hard numbers to determine how each snack will affect the chocobo's color in a general sense, not a specific one. Here's what I have so far:

 R     G     B

216   175    80: (Base Color)
193   109    31:   -23,  -66,  -49 (11 dR)
180   158   130:   -36,  -17,  +50 (11 dB)
197   139    79:   -19,  -36,   -1 ( 3 dR,  3 dB)
178    95    39:   -28,  -80,  -41 (22 dR,  3 dB)
144   184   180:   -72,   +9, +100 (28 lR)
241   212   105:   +25,  +37,  +25 ( 3 lR,  4 lB)
241   212   105:   +25,  +37,  +25 ( 5 lR,  4 lB,  6 lG)
 95    42    71:  -121, -133,   -9 (17 dB, 15 dR, 18 lG)
 41    81   130:  -175,  -94,  +50 (30 dB, 10 dG)
182   182   131:   -34,   +7,  +51 ( 2 dR, 12 lR,  1 dG)
200   101    87:   -16,  -74,   +7 ( 4 dR,  4 dB,  4 lG)
200   101    87:   -16,  -74,   +7 ( 3 dR, 10 dB)
166   171    77:   -50,   -4,   -3 ( 7 dG,  2 dB)
149   174    92:   -67,   -1,  +12 (10 dB,  5 dG,  3 lR)
167   162   156:   -49,  -13,  +76 (18 dB, 10 lB)