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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoxn View Post
    I fed my Kobold Brown chocobo one message's worth of plums and also ended up back with Ink Blue. I'll try your theory by feeding my chocobo one more message's worth of plums and report tomorrow. Hopefully you're right, because this is really frustrating.
    Yeah, believe me, I know exactly how you feel. If I posted my data log in total, you'd probably want to jump out a window due to how many times I've had the chance to hit Soot Black. Since I typed my theory out last, I came up with another equation. I'm testing it and taking another 6 hour+ risk with it, so hopefully I don't screw this up. In any case, if I'm right about my Kobold Brown theory, then I'll have you to thank specifically for proving if it actually works or not. Apologies in advance if I'm wrong. I just don't know what else to do.

    Anyway, the new equation I came up with is for me whom is currently sitting at Ink Blue as I type this. My new equation involves skipping Kobold Brown altogether with. This is my best solution for making the jump via the +5/-5 equation that Noctis Umbra brought to my attention. I still don't know if this is legit or not, but if he got a Soot Black, it's either he was extremely lucky, or he knows what he's talking about.

    Here's the fruits I came up with for making the jump from Ink Blue --> Soot Black (theory equation) (Only "beginning to grow new feathers" fruits count for this to work)

    x2 Cieldalaes Pineapple
    x1 Valfruit
    x1 Doman Plum

    Why did I choose these fruit? I'll explain. As you know from my previous posts, as well as other fellow players in this thread, we've found a loop of Kobold Brown -> Ink Blue -> Kobold Brown -> Ink Blue -> (sometimes) Midnight Blue -> Ink Blue -> Kobold Brown -> ???

    Well, the Pineapple is your ticket from Ink Blue --> Kobold Brown. Tested this twice. Others can back me up on this.
    Secondly, the Plum people keep telling me takes you from Kobold Brown --> Soot Black, are either extremely lucky, smart, or they're not telling me (us) the full story. I tested this and I went straight back to Ink Blue.

    In my equation, putting in the both of these negates one another so you don't get one or the other as a result. Instead, my theory equation should "hopefully" instead re-direct you across to Soot Black by using x1 Valfruit. The reason I use x2 Pineapples and not x1 is because according to Noctis Umbra's equation of using +5/-5, the second Pineapple helps raise Red and Green back into the 30's, and nestles Blue down to the mid 30's as well. I have yet to see anyone claim they got Soot Black from Ink Blue, but I think if someone can get Bark Brown --> Soot Black, then anything has to be in the realm of possibility. If I'm wrong, then at least Neox can test my other theory that I wanted to try out initially. If all else fails... It's back to getting to Deepwood Green from where I am now, or will be eventually, and testing out the Valfruit strategy.

    Here's what my mathematical equation looks like though for anyone that wants a visual learning experience from this to understand where I'm coming from for my idea. I don't know for sure if this will actually work.

    Ink Blue: 22 (R) / 26 (G) / 34 (B)
    Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

    22 + 5 = 27
    26 + 5 = 31
    34 - 5 = 29

    NEXT STEP

    27 - 5 = 22
    31 + 5 = 36
    29 + 5 = 34

    NEXT STEP

    22 + 5 = 27
    36 - 5 = 31
    34 + 5 = 39

    LAST STEP

    27 + 5 = "32"
    31 + 5 = "36"
    39 - 5 = "34"

    Your Score: 32 (R) / 36 (G) / 34 (B)
    Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

    And there you have it. That should get you in the 30's IF the +5/-5 technique actually works, acccording to Noctis Umbra. I've not received results for this but I'm attempting this currently to see if this is correct. Apologies in advance if this is yet another waste of time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonesaurus View Post
    And there you have it. That should get you in the 30's IF the +5/-5 technique actually works, acccording to Noctis Umbra. I've not received results for this but I'm attempting this currently to see if this is correct. Apologies in advance if this is yet another waste of time!
    Please report back here as soon as you find out. I've been in the Ink,Kobold,Deepwood loop trying to get black and currently at Ink. Someone had suggested doing 2x Pineapple and 1x Valfruit, which is what I just did 5 mins ago. It sounds like your 6 hour session will end about 15 minutes before mine so if yours works, I'm gonna try that extra Plum on the end.
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    Starting Color: Desert Yellow
    O'Ghomoro Berries x15
    Valfruit x8
    End Color: Plum Purple

    Starting Color: Plum Purple
    Doman Plums x4
    Cieldalaes Pineapples x3
    Valfruits x2
    End Color: Colibri Pink

    Does anyone know how to get from Colibri Pink to Iris Purple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonesaurus View Post

    Ink Blue: 22 (R) / 26 (G) / 34 (B)
    Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

    22 + 5 = 27
    26 + 5 = 31
    34 - 5 = 29

    NEXT STEP

    27 - 5 = 22
    31 + 5 = 36
    29 + 5 = 34

    NEXT STEP

    22 + 5 = 27
    36 - 5 = 31
    34 + 5 = 39

    LAST STEP

    27 + 5 = "32"
    31 + 5 = "36"
    39 - 5 = "34"

    Your Score: 32 (R) / 36 (G) / 34 (B)
    Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

    And there you have it. That should get you in the 30's IF the +5/-5 technique actually works, acccording to Noctis Umbra. I've not received results for this but I'm attempting this currently to see if this is correct. Apologies in advance if this is yet another waste of time!
    Confirmation on this?
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    I can confirm that the Snow White "recipe" is not 100% correct but like 90%.

    - 15 Plums
    - 6 Pineapples
    - 12 Valfruit

    First feed got bone white but just fed him 2 more Plums and finally got snow white, it seems that some people got snow white on the first feed, also read that you can get snow white if you only feed him plums (don't think it's possible with only plums thought).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbionApollon View Post
    Confirmation on this?
    Ok, so I got somewhat of mixed results. I have to come outright and say that, at 4-5 o'clock in the morning, I added 1 extra valfruit by mistake. So, what I posted is what I should have done. But because I didn't feel like resetting the 6 hour cooldown of doom, I decided to math my way back to the right numbers, slightly. I ended up with Wine Red, which is fine, because from there it's one step away from Kobold Brown anyway.

    I ended up improvising and going with x2 Pineapples / 2 Valfruits // 1 Plum <---- Only counting fruits with messages popping. What I SHOULD have done was reset my timer and started over with what I originally posted. I had to re-check my math 2-3 times just to be sure (plus because I was super-exhausted then). So, in the end, I think adding the extra valfruit removed a layer, and that's how I went over Kobold Brown and landed on Wine Red (again), which is next up in line.

    Trying to get back to Kobold Brown currently. I'll update if anything interesting happens. Sorry for the delay in replying! D:

    I would also like to know if anyone at Kobold Brown has ever just tried adding a single O'Ghomoro Berry to see if they could reach Soot Black? I almost tried this to test it in the past, but decided to go with the Plum that people reported to work at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonesaurus View Post
    I ended up improvising and going with x2 Pineapples / 2 Valfruits // 1 Plum <---- Only counting fruits with messages popping. What I SHOULD have done was reset my timer and started over with what I originally posted. I had to re-check my math 2-3 times just to be sure (plus because I was super-exhausted then). So, in the end, I think adding the extra valfruit removed a layer, and that's how I went over Kobold Brown and landed on Wine Red (again)

    Trying to get back to Kobold Brown currently. I'll update if anything interesting happens. Sorry for the delay in replying! D:

    I would also like to know if anyone at Kobold Brown has ever just tried adding a single O'Ghomoro Berry to see if they could reach Soot Black? I almost tried this to test it in the past, but decided to go with the Plum that people reported to work at the time.
    currently attempting your original plan. will post back around 5pm Central time with results

    edit: i did give a kobold brown choco a single O'ghomoro berry in one of my initial experiments to get out of the loop and still got ink blue
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbionApollon View Post
    currently attempting your original plan. will post back around 5pm Central time with results

    edit: i did give a kobold brown choco a single O'ghomoro berry in one of my initial experiments to get out of the loop and still got ink blue
    KK! Let me know how it goes and sorry if I steered you down the wrong path! >___< Just trying different things to figure out how this works. I decided to go from Wine Red and use x1 Plum (remove's Red), to see where that lands me. If I hit Kobold Brown again, I think I might decide between the 2 plum strategy I haven't seen tested yet, or push back to Deepwood Green by using x1 Valfruit & maybe x1 or x2 Apples. And from there, use the single Valfruit to get to Soot Black like others have reported to work.

    If I end up anywhere else, then I have no idea then what to do but double back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonesaurus View Post
    KK! Let me know how it goes and sorry if I steered you down the wrong path! >___< Just trying different things to figure out how this works. I decided to go from Wine Red and use x1 Plum (remove's Red), to see where that lands me. If I hit Kobold Brown again, I think I might decide between the 2 plum strategy I haven't seen tested yet, or push back to Deepwood Green by using x1 Valfruit & maybe x1 or x2 Apples. And from there, use the single Valfruit to get to Soot Black like others have reported to work.
    ive been bouncing around ink blue, kobold brown, and deepwood green trying various methods. at deepwood green i tried the valfruit and got ink blue. from ink blue tried 1 pineapple and got kobold brown from there tried a plum and got ink blue again. so idk.

    my stable condition has always been good though. have we confirmed whether or not stable condition influences values?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbionApollon View Post
    ive been bouncing around ink blue, kobold brown, and deepwood green trying various methods. at deepwood green i tried the valfruit and got ink blue. from ink blue tried 1 pineapple and got kobold brown from there tried a plum and got ink blue again. so idk.

    my stable condition has always been good though. have we confirmed whether or not stable condition influences values?
    This may be a waste of time (kind of ironic when you think about it) but has anyone tried 2 Doman Plums @ Kobold Brown yet? I can't tell what the numbers added and subtracted are exactly, but using that +5/-5 business, I keep getting all 30's, which is where Soot Black is.
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