Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[Zuro]

Mine is blood red right now! D: I have a thread on how I got there. If you can tell me how you got from there to Loam Brown, I can follow this!

This is definitely not guaranteed, but off my memory 1 Plum, 10 berries, 7 pears for loam brown. The problem here is I don't remember how many plums i fed.

[Tyrano]

I don't quite remember how I got from blood red to loam bown, but after getting Loam Brown feed it 2 berries, 1 Pear to Deepwood green.

From deepwood green, 1 Valfruit to soot black.

So did you get a feather message for each single fruit during that feed to get to Deepwood green? So 3 messages in total? Thanks.

[MomomiMomi]

Thank you for that explanation Syrehn. Nicely worded.

Raka, if that's how it worked, then you wouldn't be able to get such deep blues by simply feeding berries.

[Syrehn]

Thank you for that explanation Syrehn. Nicely worded.

Raka, if that's how it worked, then you wouldn't be able to get such deep blues by simply feeding berries.

This. I can't stress this enough. If it worked how you think Raka, it would be impossible to achieve some of the Chocobo colours that people have reported with only a single fruit type (i.e. lighten red or darken red); they require modifications to the other hue values.

[RakaMaimhov]

Thank you for that explanation Syrehn. Nicely worded.

Raka, if that's how it worked, then you wouldn't be able to get such deep blues by simply feeding berries.

Sure you can, as the red and green already present contribute to the overall saturation of color. Blue is the predominant shade, but the others haven't been removed. Bleach a chocobo down to pure white then add only blue and you'll get a different shade of blue than if you added only blue starting from the default color.

I have not seen any evidence that proves otherwise. I've seen quite enough (white chocobos) that prove against the theory you are arguing.

[MomomiMomi]

Sure you can, as the red and green already present contribute to the overall saturation of color. Blue is the predominant shade, but the others haven't been removed. Bleach a chocobo down to pure white then add only blue and you'll get a different shade of blue than if you added only blue starting from the default color.

I have not seen any evidence that proves otherwise. I've seen quite enough (white chocobos) that prove against the theory you are arguing.

Those white chocobos were not produced by simply feeding large amounts of one fruit at a time. And where's the black? It's extremely easy with the system you're suggesting. Merely deepen all three, one color at a time, and there you have it. Yet... nobody's produced this black. Why?

[blueruckus]

Yet... nobody's produced this black. Why?

Here's the problem with black and white.

White is easy. You just add a lot of the LIGHTENS color fruits. Snow White on the RGB scale is all + all RGB and there isn't another dye color anywhere near it.

Soot Black, however, isn't a true true black so it isn't as easy as just "MINUS ALL THE COLORS!!". Ink Blue, Deepwood Green, and Kobold Brown are all in the same value range as Soot Black, where Ink Blue is actually the lowest in terms of RGB value (which is why it actually looks darker than Soot Black). Another difficult part of obtaining Soot Black is that while the LIGHTEN snacks all do +color, the DEEPEN snacks do what seems to be + primary color and - on the other 2. So it's a more complex balancing act in comparison to going White.

[Ravenguard]

Here's the problem with black and white.

White is easy. You just add a lot of the LIGHTENS color fruits. Snow White on the RGB scale is all + all RGB and there isn't another dye color anywhere near it.

Soot Black, however, isn't a true true black so it isn't as easy as just "MINUS ALL THE COLORS!!". Ink Blue, Deepwood Green, and Kobold Brown are all in the same value range as Soot Black, where Ink Blue is actually the lowest in terms of RGB value (which is why it actually looks darker than Soot Black). Another difficult part of obtaining Soot Black is that while the LIGHTEN snacks all do +color, the DEEPEN snacks do what seems to be + primary color and - on the other 2. So it's a more complex balancing act in comparison to going White.

This is right... kinda. Just like the DEEPEN'er fruits that give + to one color and - to the other two colors, the LIGHTEN'er fruit works as its polor opposite.

If you go by color values, Ink Blue is indeed deeper than Soot black in terms of values being closer to zero. To achieve Soot Black, you'd need to feed the Chocobo a number off all three Deepen'er fruits (that give + to one color, and - to the other two). That will transform your bird into the Ink Blue, which then you'd need to feed it a very few trio of the Lighten'er fruits, which will raise all the values evenly up to the values which match closer to Soot Black.

[RakaMaimhov]

Those white chocobos were not produced by simply feeding large amounts of one fruit at a time. And where's the black? It's extremely easy with the system you're suggesting. Merely deepen all three, one color at a time, and there you have it. Yet... nobody's produced this black. Why?

MY white chocobo was produced by feeding a lot of valfruit, followed by a lot of pineapple, followed by a lot of plums, followed by a few more of each to finish it out.

Perhaps in time I will experiment with black, but I bet someone will get it before that.

[Tashigi]

Disclaimer: I use SweetFX.
The sharpening and adjustment in colors from the filters will not look the same on your screen.

Stable condition: Good.
9 Berries, 6 Apples, 3 Pears: Coral Pink.
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In addition to the above: +6 Apples: Sunset Orange.
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Keep in mind that unlike some of the previous posters, I am consistently getting the "feathers begin to grow" message.