Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[Giantbane]

So! I got Soot Black. I'll prob post a picture when I get home in a few hours.

I was part of the looper group, and what I did to get out of it was try to eliminate what I knew would be the problem. I thought about how we all fed so many Berries to get it to the lower color spectrum and how blue is probably the culprit. I at first tried Red, because well it made sense with a starting color of Yellow, that Red level would be higher. This didn't work, and the loop continued. I then remembered feeding it many berries and plums (more berries though) which would bring my Blue level higher more then likely, and my Red actually lower then I had previously thought. If you look at the charts, Blue is the lower end of Soot black, and obviously Ink blue has it a bit higher then the rest.

I figured at this point, it was actually Blue that was the culprit. I knew my reds were low as I had tried lowering them to no avail. So then it was time to try and bring up the other two evenly and get my blue under. x2 Pineapples did the trick for this (plume change x2), and now I'm a proud owner!

To those looping, I really don't believe in RNG in this system. Your color levels are probably just tilted in some form. Try to figure out which level of color is higher then the rest, even them out and raise them to Soot Black levels. SE rounds off colors to push you into a color tolerance IMO, and dipping above/below a range in certain numbers most likely pulls you out of certain pigments. Soot black's fairly even numbers probably just exacerbates this.

I really think this rounding is evident in how we are going from Ink Blue > Kobold Brown. The point swing doesn't make sense. I really wonder (especially since I got x2 Plume change messages with x2 pineapple) if I had used a Pineapple at Kobold Brown, if it would have put me at Soot Black. Numerically looking at Kobold Brown it doesn't make sense, but going from Ink Blue > Kobold from x1 Pineapple doesn't either. Something was off in the numbers, and for me it happened to be Blue.

I'll repost this from about 10 pages earlier:

My FC has been experimenting with O'ghomoro berries only (deepen blue hues). If they stop at color change, they have been able to repeat the results multiple times. This is the path for the berries:

[197,139, 79] - Cork Brown
[178,157,105] - Ul Brown
[180,158,130] - gobbiebag brown
[140,122,101] - Shale Brown
[130,128,125] - Goobbue Grey
[128, 120,169] - Lavender Blue
[114, 75,101] - Plum Purple
[ 41, 81,130] - Othard blue
[ 34, 42, 96] - Royal Blue

And berries stop doing anything after that.

The fruits aren't a direct +r -g -b or anything like that. There's a general trend in the above example towards a deep blue, but the path is not direct by any means at all. It may make more sense in a different color space, but not with additive RGB colors.

[Zaes]

Ok still trying to achieve Grape Purple.

My most recent feeding of 8 Apples, 6 Pears and 6 Berries has taken me from Woad Blue to Ink Blue.



If anyone would mind chiming in and telling me the best way to get there I'm all ears.

[Abaigeal]

Ok still trying to achieve Grape Purple.

My most recent feeding of 8 Apples, 6 Pears and 6 Berries has taken me from Woad Blue to Ink Blue.

If anyone would mind chiming in and telling me the best way to get there I'm all ears.

Feed it Fruit to push the magenta hues up (or to remove the green to give you red and blue hues)
and then Berries to drive it purple.

[Zaes]

Feed it Fruit to push the magenta hues up (or to remove the green to give you red and blue hues)
and then Berries to drive it purple.

How certain are you though? Because looking at the RGB values of both Ink blue is R22 G26 B34 and Grape is R52 G36 B54. I've gone through such a mix of colors I'm just afraid of throwing myself even farther away because these values are definitely the closest I've gotten. I was originally thinking I have to lighten blue and red and keep green close to the same but given the list I have written down I feel like I'm going through this process backwards thinking.

[Abaigeal]

How certain are you though?

Oh I know your pain. I have been doing that with achieving rolanberry. But this handy dandy site hasn't failed me yet! (with baby steps i am getting closer.) http://colorizer.org/

Put in your RGB values in the left for the color your bird is now ( i used the ink blue 22 26 34). Move the Magenta slider in the CYMK section toward the magenta, then move the blue up in the RGB. The box at the bottom should be a purple hue yes?

So if we know:

Red= Apples/Green= Pears/Blue = Berries
Plums = Cyan/Fruit= Magenta/Pineapple = yellow.

if you boosted the magenta feed it Fruit.
if you Boosted blue feed it berries.

I used this to go from pumpkin to Sunset and Sunset to dalamud. Mostly because again with out knowing what exact amount to feed to push it the the color world you are the mercy of color RNG!

Also Yes, well aware there is a rolanberry formula...however, when i started there was not one!

[Valtiel13]

How certain are you though? Because looking at the RGB values of both Ink blue is R22 G26 B34 and Grape is R52 G36 B54. I've gone through such a mix of colors I'm just afraid of throwing myself even farther away because these values are definitely the closest I've gotten. I was originally thinking I have to lighten blue and red and keep green close to the same but given the list I have written down I feel like I'm going through this process backwards thinking.

You could be conservative and just deepen everything a couple times with Apple/Pear/Berry x2. Your ratios will still be off but everything will be closer to your target.

Edit - Bah...completely wrote the opposite of what I meant. You would want to LIGHTEN with Pineapple/Valfruit/Plums. Again, this would knock your colors closer you to your target (green might be spot on and then you'd only need to tinker with blue and red).

[Zaes]

You could be conservative and just deepen everything a couple times with Apple/Pear/Berry x2. Your ratios will still be off but everything will be closer to your target.

Wouldn't deepening put me at all lower numbers than I already am?

[SaikaT]

Finally! Soot Black reached! I feel incredibly lucky since I did not have to experience this infamous loop but went straight from Ink Blue to Soot Black with 1 pineapple ^^


Starting from Desert Yellow I fed my chocobo:
8 apples, 8 pears, 17 berries and 1 plum and ended up at Bark Brown.
From Bark Brown:
6 apples, 8 pears, 9 berries and 1 plum which took me to Rolanberry Red.
From Rolanberry Red:
2 apples, 1 pear and 5 berries brought me to Midnight Blue.
From Midnight Blue:
3 pineapples and 1 berry got me Kobold Brown.
From Kobold Brown:
1 plum. Resulted in Ink Blue.
From Ink Blue:
1 Pineapple.

[LittleCatLune]

Two feeds of:
12 Doman Plum
6 Cieldalaes Pineapple
12 Valfruit
*Sorry if this has been posted before.

[LuxBellator]

From Dessert Yellow to Raptor BLue to Plum Purple to Currant Purple to Ink Blue to Kobold Brown and finally Soot Black!