Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[Traek]

So, I've read through about every page in this thread, and I thank everyone for their submissions. I've gotten mine to Ink Blue currently and am waiting on results for Soot Black. I fed it one Pineapple and hope I don't hit the loop I know others are running into.

My theory on fixing the loop scenario. Obviously there might be some RNG involved, and different numbers but we know a value is higher then the others, otherwise the color swap wouldn't continually happen. There has to be a color range that our Chocobos are getting shoved into (*close enough* mechanic) that makes the smaller jumps a little challenging. Wouldn't this be alleviated by 'leveling out' the colors? It wouldn't work at the mid range colors, but for Soot black and obviously a light color like Snow White it should.

What I'm suggesting if you are having the 'loop effect' on Soot black, is to evenly feed darkening fruit to essentially 'bottom out' your colors. Say you are at Ink Blue/Kobold Brown/Deepwood Green and you are looping. Just feed it.. (random guess) x3 of berry/apple/pear, and 'bottom out' your colors (hopefully) to be rather even (close to 0). If this in itself doesn't round you to say.. Soot black, then after the x3 darkening session, start lightening sessions as they should be even. This will bring your r/g/b factors up closely and should result in Soot black by the 2nd or 3rd session IMO.

This is of course theory, but I hope it might help break the loop some are running into. I'm hoping I don't hit the loop myself. If I do, I am going to try this. I will probably not have results till late tonight if anything, but if other people want to try themselves and post results that would be great too.

The other option is of course to try and single out the culprit of the loop.. which is obviously a bit harder to do.. then alternate two of the darkeners (high red = berry + pear sets) to get it even. So that is another option if you have an idea of the culprit. It is obviously a mixed culprit (high red, +med high blue as example) that is giving the loop mixed in with the rounding SE put in for each color, but if you bring one down to similar levels (med - med high) then you'll less likely hit an infinite loop, and more likely round into Soot black.

Sorry for the ramble, I hope one of these methods work for the frustrated people!

[blueruckus]

Update on my endless black loop. I'm at Ink Blue and as suggested to me I did 2 Pineapples and 1 Valfruit... baaaack to Kobold Brown. I went to Kobold Brown last time by using just 1 pineapple.

I think my next step is to "bottom out" my RGB by darkening all the way then math my way up with lightening fruits to try and get to soot range.

[AlbionApollon]

Update on my endless black loop. I'm at Ink Blue and as suggested to me I did 2 Pineapples and 1 Valfruit... baaaack to Kobold Brown. I went to Kobold Brown last time by using just 1 pineapple.

I think my next step is to "bottom out" my RGB by darkening all the way then math my way up with lightening fruits to try and get to soot range.

Leonesaurus recommended using 2 pineapples 1 valfruit and 1 plum. think that lack of a plum made the difference?

if his theory is right and the fruits do +5/-5 values assuming you were set at
R/G/B values
22/26/34 for ink blue

your new values would be
37/31/29

this is exceptionally close to soot black at 37/35/30 but his other theory is that soot black requires the colors to all be in the 30's range. your blue value was at 29. this might explain why it went back to brown

[blueruckus]

So in terms of math, how are we treating this?

Deepeners do +5 to primary and -5 to secondary? Berries +5 blue -5 red/grn?

Lighteners do what, the opposite? Pineapples do -5 blue and +5 red/grn?

Is that the correct math thinking on this?

[AlbionApollon]

So in terms of math, how are we treating this?

Deepeners do +5 to primary and -5 to secondary? Berries +5 blue -5 red/grn?

Lighteners do what, the opposite? Plums do -5 blue and +5 red/grn?

Is that the correct math thinking on this?

thats the current theory i suppose. im doing the ink blue to soot black test by doing 2 pineapples 1 plum and 1 valfruit.

will post results in 5 hours unless leonesaurus posts soon to say that doesnt work

edit: im currently stuck in the ink blue>kobold brown>deepwood green loop

[blueruckus]

thats the current theory i suppose. im doing the ink blue to soot black test by doing 2 pineapples 1 plum and 1 valfruit.

will post results in 5 hours unless leonesaurus posts soon to say that doesnt work

Leoneasaurus should have results but I don't see him in player search so assuming he hasn't checked.

[shoki]

So in terms of math, how are we treating this?

Deepeners do +5 to primary and -5 to secondary? Berries +5 blue -5 red/grn?

Lighteners do what, the opposite? Pineapples do -5 blue and +5 red/grn?

Is that the correct math thinking on this?

In my opinion it's not, but whatever. Seems everybody thinks this is correct *.*

i dropped with 1feather msg with 14xValfruit from colibri pink to plum purple. So thats a decrease in every value, which would not apply to the theory above.

[Kahnom]

So in terms of math, how are we treating this?

Deepeners do +5 to primary and -5 to secondary? Berries +5 blue -5 red/grn?

Lighteners do what, the opposite? Pineapples do -5 blue and +5 red/grn?

Is that the correct math thinking on this?

I go with 4.5 though since its in the middle between 3 -6

[SaikaT]

i'm currently at midnight blue, aiming for soot black or possibly ink blue if it happens to land there i might keep it... i've fed it 3 pineapples and 1 berry. i'm still not sure whether that was actually the right decision or not. any suggestions on this? this whole colour system makes my brain ache and so far i've just been going of what other people have tried but not ended up with quite the same results, so it's not like i actually have any idea what i'm doing. heh.

[Kahnom]

i'm currently at midnight blue, aiming for soot black or possibly ink blue if it happens to land there i might keep it... i've fed it 3 pineapples and 1 berry. i'm still not sure whether that was actually the right decision or not. any suggestions on this? this whole colour system makes my brain ache and so far i've just been going of what other people have tried but not ended up with quite the same results, so it's not like i actually have any idea what i'm doing. heh.

I'm in the same situation as you,got midnight blue and aim for soot black.i've fed 3 pineapple 2 apple 2 pear instead,maybe your outcome and my outcome might give us a new direction or maybe both of us will get soot black lol the result will come out in 2 hours.