Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[AttacKat]

I was able to help hundreds thank to this. Taken many days and hours out of my free time to do it. This upsets you somehow. We know it's not an exact science, it's what we got. Best I can do, and it's nice of you to come high and mighty after 370 posts you didn't read. Be happy, help everyone yourself. I'm done now that the last people I was helping got their soot black.

Everyone, AttacKat will help you all. Enjoy.

BTW, learn to math.

You helped hundreds, and how many that followed your advise and did not get the result? Did you count that?

Sorry, not trying to take any credit from your work, but you do need to tell people your exact feed suggestions is based on RNG.

Am I going to help everyone? No, but heck, myself and many others have spend the past 10+ days and hundreds of fruits/feeds/hrs doing controlled experiments just trying to come up with the results you guys are using to based your RNG calculations off. Am I wrong to tell you please stop using inaccurate information? Are you right to keep telling people exactly what to feed when it is RNG based on current findings?

I am not isn't going to tell people exactly what to feed, but I have been spending tons of fruit/time on trying to figure out the logic how SE is doing their RNG.

BTW, my math, is what you are using to come up with your suggestions. If I cannot do my math correctly, then there is no way your answer can have any meaning behind them.

As I have said either here or elsewhere, the ONLY conclusive color pathing tool we have ATM is the PNG file, and even that isn't 100% all the time.

[Syrehn]

You helped hundreds, and how many that followed your advise and did not get the result? Did you count that?

Sorry, not trying to take any credit from your work, but you do need to tell people your exact feed suggestions is based on RNG.

Am I going to help everyone? No, but heck, myself and many others have spend the past 10+ days and hundreds of fruits/feeds/hrs doing controlled experiments just trying to come up with the results you guys are using to based your RNG calculations off. Am I wrong to tell you please stop using inaccurate information? Are you right to keep telling people exactly what to feed when it is RNG based on current findings?

I am not isn't going to tell people exactly what to feed, but I have been spending tons of fruit/time on trying to figure out the logic how SE is doing their RNG.

BTW, my math, is what you are using to come up with your suggestions. If I cannot do my math correctly, then there is no way your answer can have any meaning behind them.

As I have said either here or elsewhere, the ONLY conclusive color pathing tool we have ATM is the PNG file, and even that isn't 100% all the time.

He's not the only person that was assisting people using a +5/-5 value or providing a sample of fruit numbers to try using; myself and a few others were as well much earlier in the thread. In the posts where we listed fruit values we always put that it "should get you into a colour range" and that "it wasn't an exact science", etc. I don't think you understand how many C+P posts there are using that format to try to help others. Telling someone to "Try" a combo of fruits is a far cry from saying "Hey, do this and it will give you your exact colour guaranteed".

If you want to come down on the individuals who have spent countless hours attempting to get others towards their desired colour that's up to you. If you don't like the tools that are being offered as an attempt to help people move towards their desired colour that's up to you. As mentioned the players that were helping were doing the best they could with the tools available. You do not need to come into the thread whistle blowing and telling everyone who has dedicated time to help others that they are wrong and spreading misinfo because we suggested a number of fruits to try (look at the countless people that were helped), but again, that's up to you. Just be prepared to be the one left trying to help all the players going forward and if you choose not to at least they'll all know why the rest of us aren't.

Cheers!

[AttacKat]

As mentioned the players that were helping were doing the best they could with the tools available. You do not need to come into the thread whistle blowing and telling everyone who has dedicated time to help others that they are wrong and spreading misinfo because we suggested a number of fruits to try (look at the countless people that were helped), but again, that's up to you. Just be prepared to be the one left trying to help all the players going forward and if you choose not to at least they'll all know why the rest of us aren't.

Cheers!

And helping others is what we are ALL trying to do. But this isn't new. We have known feeding a given number of fruits will not produce the same result everytime back in post 500-ish. So, I question you guys that make those kind of recommendations ... Why con't down the wrong path?? 2000+ posts later?

Won't we ALL benefit much more, if we can all control ourselves a little, especially those of us that are here making recommendations, to others to do things in steps. This way the results can be logged and tracked, instead of just making blanket statements where no one will have any clue of what happened, and at the end, does not even help to further those of us that are trying to determine the behavior what each fruit will do?

Yes, it may sound like I am blowing whistles, but let me ask you this ... How will feeding 2 berries and 1 apple together effect the RGB value? Can any of you tell me?? All I can say is I know I do not know, but at least I AM doing controlled feeds so I can track the changes and hope I may be able to see some behavior patterns then just throwing knifes blind folded.

So, how about it? Instead of making blank feeds suggestions based on a RNG calculator telling people to use X of this Y of that Z of those in HUGE amounts, how about let's control the process and get people to the next color, then move on from there?

We need to stop this "how do I get from Blood red to soot black" and you guys come back with "feed 30 of blue, 50 of green, and 10 of yellow" business. Seriously, if we can control this, it will help us ALL, especially us data gatherers who can also use your help too in getting more data, and maybe help us to come out with a better tool sooner to replace this RNG game.