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    Quote Originally Posted by Traek View Post
    Like people before have said on advice, it is not exact science, and advice. Can't guarantee results, but I've been helping friends/FC people pretty successfully so far.
    Any advice for someone who's trying to get from Royal Blue [34][42][96] to Grape [52][36][54]? =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichinshek View Post
    Any advice for someone who's trying to get from Royal Blue [34][42][96] to Grape [52][36][54]? =)
    So, you need R++, G+, and B---. Try Apple + Pear + Pineapple in a 3:2:1 ratio until you get the message, then see where you are? That should get you in the direction you want. Maybe do 3:2:1, then if you get a (new feathers) message on the 6th feed (ignore any from feeds 1-5), stop and see what you get. Otherwise, do a few more in roughly those proportions until you do get the message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    So, you need R++, G+, and B---. Try Apple + Pear + Pineapple in a 3:2:1 ratio until you get the message, then see where you are? That should get you in the direction you want. Maybe do 3:2:1, then if you get a (new feathers) message on the 6th feed (ignore any from feeds 1-5), stop and see what you get. Otherwise, do a few more in roughly those proportions until you do get the message.
    Should I be feeding 1 color at a time or alternating? o.O;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichinshek View Post
    Should I be feeding 1 color at a time or alternating? o.O;
    My theory is that the message means your color will change. So, if you fed him one apple and got the message, sure, your color will change, but it's extremely unlikely that it'll jump right to Grape. If you give one of each and get the message on the last one, you might get to where you want to go, or you might not be. If you get the "New Feathers" message on one hit and do not get it on the next, then (if I'm right) you've gone back to Royal Blue. Possible if like, the Pear hits only Red, lowering it, and the Pineapple hits only Red, raising it. But, a combination of those there fruits should trend toward the values you're looking for.

    Again, as others have said, this isn't an exact science. There's a large RNG component. You can mitigate it by taking smaller steps, but never end on a feed that doesn't give a message, because you won't see a change if you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esutiben View Post
    I just tried it and going by the +6/-6 (or5) it should work or be right on the ballpark. Will surely update in 6 hours.
    Good luck!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ichinshek View Post
    Any advice for someone who's trying to get from Royal Blue [34][42][96] to Grape [52][36][54]? =)
    Obviously your Blue is a bit high. I'd personally go with x2 Apple (raise red, lower green/blue) > x1 Pineapple (further lower blue, raise green back to correct spot + red to about where it needs to be > x3 Apple + x3 Pear alternate (keeps your r/g levels the same, while lowering blue to appropriate level. Make sure you are alternating Apple > Pear > etc.).

    This will bring you very close to what you are looking for. Hopefully right on the money, but again RNG and unknowns involved.
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    Also for those wondering about alternating, the reason I'm suggesting this in regards to *soot black* requests, is because we simply don't know if there is a color floor or where it is exactly. I'm simply trying to keep people from hitting it (unless intentionally leveling out all colors) because it'll throw off the color proportions.

    In the mid range of numbers it won't matter as much, but I do it just to keep track of things.
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    Last edited by Traek; 08-26-2014 at 04:58 AM.

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    Since I'm stuck in this black loop... I took an earlier suggestion and I decided to try the math route and try to floor all my values to 0 by alternating Apples, Pears, Berries until I'm at 0 5 0. From there I began alternating valfruit, pineapple, plums until I hit a range of 40 35 30. This is with the theory that the values alternate +/- 5 on each feed.

    This may just have been a huge waste of fruit, but at least this will give me some peace of mind. If this doesn't work I'm gonna work back to Ink Blue and call it good until a more concrete method emerges.

    I'll be back in 3.5 hours to report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueruckus View Post
    Since I'm stuck in this black loop... I took an earlier suggestion and I decided to try the math route and try to floor all my values to 0 by alternating Apples, Pears, Berries until I'm at 0 5 0. From there I began alternating valfruit, pineapple, plums until I hit a range of 40 35 30. This is with the theory that the values alternate +/- 5 on each feed.

    This may just have been a huge waste of fruit, but at least this will give me some peace of mind. If this doesn't work I'm gonna work back to Ink Blue and call it good until a more concrete method emerges.

    I'll be back in 3.5 hours to report.
    Baaaack at Ink Blue. What a waste of snacks. Next up is 2 pineapples as someone here confirmed a Soot from Ink with 2 Pineapples. Back to waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichinshek View Post
    Any advice for someone who's trying to get from Royal Blue [34][42][96] to Grape [52][36][54]? =)
    royal + apple =abyssal
    abyssal + apple = rolanberry
    rolanberry + pear = grape


    I dont think people are reading the forums and reading the data people have posted. Because people have posted the data to most of the questions being asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitchpunk View Post
    Posted my stats in 3 post on http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2391533
    Like others, trying to get soot black, any suggestions on my next move?
    Alright, here's my results that take place right after my 3rd post on http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2391538

    REMOVED (after given advice)
    V
    Stable: Fair
    1 berry
    1 berry
    Feather Alert
    ^
    REMOVED

    Stable: Fair
    1 plum
    Feather Alert
    -Deepwood Green

    Stable: Fair
    1 Valfruit
    Feather Alert
    -Kobold Brown

    Stable: Fair
    1 plum
    feather alert
    1 plum (still alert)
    -Deepwood Green

    Keep getting stuck. I've been looking at https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/15...539/Qgq6wI.png

    I know the values are
    Deepwood Green
    25 36 28
    Kobold Brown
    42 28 23
    Soot Black
    37 35 30

    But I can't seem to break the pattern to get it into Soot Black.
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