Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[AlbionApollon]

I ended up improvising and going with x2 Pineapples / 2 Valfruits // 1 Plum <---- Only counting fruits with messages popping. What I SHOULD have done was reset my timer and started over with what I originally posted. I had to re-check my math 2-3 times just to be sure (plus because I was super-exhausted then). So, in the end, I think adding the extra valfruit removed a layer, and that's how I went over Kobold Brown and landed on Wine Red (again)

Trying to get back to Kobold Brown currently. I'll update if anything interesting happens. Sorry for the delay in replying! D:

I would also like to know if anyone at Kobold Brown has ever just tried adding a single O'Ghomoro Berry to see if they could reach Soot Black? I almost tried this to test it in the past, but decided to go with the Plum that people reported to work at the time.

currently attempting your original plan. will post back around 5pm Central time with results

edit: i did give a kobold brown choco a single O'ghomoro berry in one of my initial experiments to get out of the loop and still got ink blue

[Leonesaurus]

currently attempting your original plan. will post back around 5pm Central time with results

edit: i did give a kobold brown choco a single O'ghomoro berry in one of my initial experiments to get out of the loop and still got ink blue

KK! Let me know how it goes and sorry if I steered you down the wrong path! >___< Just trying different things to figure out how this works. I decided to go from Wine Red and use x1 Plum (remove's Red), to see where that lands me. If I hit Kobold Brown again, I think I might decide between the 2 plum strategy I haven't seen tested yet, or push back to Deepwood Green by using x1 Valfruit & maybe x1 or x2 Apples. And from there, use the single Valfruit to get to Soot Black like others have reported to work.

If I end up anywhere else, then I have no idea then what to do but double back.

[AlbionApollon]

KK! Let me know how it goes and sorry if I steered you down the wrong path! >___< Just trying different things to figure out how this works. I decided to go from Wine Red and use x1 Plum (remove's Red), to see where that lands me. If I hit Kobold Brown again, I think I might decide between the 2 plum strategy I haven't seen tested yet, or push back to Deepwood Green by using x1 Valfruit & maybe x1 or x2 Apples. And from there, use the single Valfruit to get to Soot Black like others have reported to work.

ive been bouncing around ink blue, kobold brown, and deepwood green trying various methods. at deepwood green i tried the valfruit and got ink blue. from ink blue tried 1 pineapple and got kobold brown from there tried a plum and got ink blue again. so idk.

my stable condition has always been good though. have we confirmed whether or not stable condition influences values?

[Leonesaurus]

ive been bouncing around ink blue, kobold brown, and deepwood green trying various methods. at deepwood green i tried the valfruit and got ink blue. from ink blue tried 1 pineapple and got kobold brown from there tried a plum and got ink blue again. so idk.

my stable condition has always been good though. have we confirmed whether or not stable condition influences values?

This may be a waste of time (kind of ironic when you think about it) but has anyone tried 2 Doman Plums @ Kobold Brown yet? I can't tell what the numbers added and subtracted are exactly, but using that +5/-5 business, I keep getting all 30's, which is where Soot Black is.

[AlbionApollon]

This may be a waste of time (kind of ironic when you think about it) but has anyone tried 2 Doman Plums @ Kobold Brown yet? I can't tell what the numbers added and subtracted are exactly, but using that +5/-5 business, I keep getting all 30's, which is where Soot Black is.

i think +8/-8 might be the scale. your 2 pineapple 1 valfruit 1 plum theory yielded kobold brown. and ill try the plum again. see if maybe rnjesus gives me soot black

updated color scale from new thread. this makes alot of peoples color combinations make sense if this is accurate

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3YW...hEcXR4bFU/edit

[Syrehn]

i think +8/-8 might be the scale. your 2 pineapple 1 valfruit 1 plum theory yielded kobold brown. and ill try the plum again. see if maybe rnjesus gives me soot black

updated color scale from new thread. this makes alot of peoples color combinations make sense if this is accurate

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3YW...hEcXR4bFU/edit

Interesting. My original "Guide" listed that it could be anywhere from approx. +/-3 to +/-6; we've just been using +/-5 for ease of calculation as it appeared to be a sweet spot (maybe not so much with Soot Black). Increasing the integer and working on the new colour scale does indeed make sense keeping in mind that there is still likely a "colour range" and getting close/inside that range should pop you into the Dye colour without having "exact" numbers. Need the loopers to test it out.

[Traek]

Interesting. My original "Guide" listed that it could be anywhere from approx. +/-3 to +/-6; we've just been using +/-5 for ease of calculation as it appeared to be a sweet spot (maybe not so much with Soot Black). Increasing the integer and working on the new colour scale does indeed make sense keeping in mind that there is still likely a "colour range" and getting close/inside that range should pop you into the Dye colour without having "exact" numbers. Need the loopers to test it out.

Interested in what you think about what I said Here on the previous page. If the numbers are as exact as they are shown, shouldn't it be as simple as we made it from the start? The loop effect doesn't make sense to me based on our numbers, unless its magically rounding us to the nearest color.. which still doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I tried something to push me out of the loop, will have results in 3 hours.

[AlbionApollon]

here are my thoughts so far:

lets assume you are at dessert yellow and want to go to blood red
lets also assume that blood red has a R/G/B +/- color range that any R/G/B value within that range snaps to Blood Red and you feed your chocobo any variety of fruit that falls in that range and gets the Blood Red color.
I do not think that after your chocobo changes to blood red that the R/G/B color values become the perfect Blood Red values. I think that you are still sitting in the range.
Now if you want to go from Blood Red to another color and hit that one exactly on the R/G/B values. You need to know where you sit precisely for your current values and mathematically go from there using the +8/-8 formula and the new color scale i posted.

edit: continued on next page

[Leonesaurus]

i think +8/-8 might be the scale. your 2 pineapple 1 valfruit 1 plum theory yielded kobold brown. and ill try the plum again. see if maybe rnjesus gives me soot black

updated color scale from new thread. this makes alot of peoples color combinations make sense if this is accurate

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3YW...hEcXR4bFU/edit

Yeah, I just found this earlier and have been re-attempting my old equations with the new RGB values. I haven't tried using the +8/-8 yet though, tried a couple with +5/-5, but I'm going to switch over now and try it out. Oddly enough, I noticed both Kobold Brown and Soot Black are exactly 8(R) / 8(G) / 8(B) apart from each other with the new RGB values presented.