Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[skaterger]

Hello all! First all I would like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. Unfortunately as its 150 pages long, I could only skim through them so apologies in advance if some of the questions I'm asking have been posted before. I also realize that there are many questions in this thread but I would appreciate if some kind soul would take the time to answer my questions before I throw away huge amount of gil.

1) From what I read, the only time a change in color is confirmed is when the "beginning to grow new feathers" message has appeared. Is that right? If so, here's a hypothetical situation. If person A feeds a berry and gets the message the first try, person B feeds 3 berries and gets the message and person C feeds 10 berries before getting the message, does that mean all 3 chocobos will have the same color? Or does person C who fed his chocobo 10 berries get a darker shade of blue than person A who only fed his chocobo 1 berry?

2) This kinda pertains to the previous question. If a person gets only 1 feather message after 10 feeds, does that mean that all prior feedings the effects of the fruit are not gained, and only on the 10th fruit or is it that you only need 1 successful feeding to see the effects of all prior feedings?

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So to start, you're going to want to drastically lower those GREENs and REDs using BLUE DEEPEN'ers (O'Ghomoro Berry). This will have the adverse effect of raising your BLUEs, however getting all three colors around the same value will make the voyage to Soot Black a little easier. If you add in a few apples and pears into the mix, it should slow down your BLUEs from getting too high in the process.

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Do I feed all of them at once? Or do I stop when I see the first "feather" message? Is there any difference if I get 1,3, 5 or 10 feather messages?

Thank you all for your help in advance.

[Ravenguard]

Do I feed all of them at once? Or do I stop when I see the first "feather" message? Is there any difference if I get 1,3, 5 or 10 feather messages?

Thank you all for your help in advance.

You feed them all at once, and continue to feed the amount even if you trigger the "growing new feathers" message.

What is happening behind the scenes is you are shifting your Chocobo's hidden RGB values around (even if you don't see the indication of new feathers). Each dye appears to have a range for each color (I.e. 25-35Red, 100-120Green, 150-160Blue for color "X") and if all three numbers are inside these values you will active that plumage color on your next change. When you see "growing new feathers" message, you have effectively pushed yourself from your current color range into a new one.

*Example*
Color "X" Range = 25-35Red, 100-120Green, 150-160Blue
Color "Y" Range = 25-35Red, 100-120Green, 160-170Blue

[skaterger]

You feed them all at once, and continue to feed the amount even if you trigger the "growing new feathers" message.

What is happening behind the scenes is you are shifting your Chocobo's hidden RGB values around (even if you don't see the indication of new feathers). Each dye appears to have a range for each color (I.e. 25-35Red, 100-120Green, 150-160Blue for color "X") and if all three numbers are inside these values you will active that plumage color on your next change. When you see "growing new feathers" message, you have effectively pushed yourself from your current color range into the new one.

Sorry if I sound stupid, but from what you are saying, only when the message appears, you are triggered into a new range. So this means that EVERY feed is definite to change the numbers in the RGB spectrum, the only rng is the amount it changes by. ANd the reason why people take different amount of fruits to get the feather message is because of the rng in the amount of change in each feed. Am I interpreting this correctly?

Yes. You're interpreting this correctly.

Thanks! I'll update my results here periodically.

[Syrehn]

Sorry if I sound stupid, but from what you are saying, only when the message appears, you are triggered into a new range. So this means that EVERY feed is definite to change the numbers in the RGB spectrum, the only rng is the amount it changes by. ANd the reason why people take different amount of fruits to get the feather message is because of the rng in the amount of change in each feed. Am I interpreting this correctly?

Yes. You're interpreting this correctly.

[blueruckus]

What is happening behind the scenes is you are shifting your Chocobo's hidden RGB values around (even if you don't see the indication of new feathers). Each dye appears to have a range for each color (I.e. 25-35Red, 100-120Green, 150-160Blue for color "X") and if all three numbers are inside these values you will active that plumage color on your next change. When you see "growing new feathers" message, you have effectively pushed yourself from your current color range into a new one.
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I'm hoping this is how it works. I'm trying for black and I'm in this Ink Blue > Kobold Brown > Deepwood Green loop. I'm hoping that if I just continue on this loop, eventually the RNG will skew the numbers just enough to get me in to Soot Black. My fear was that my numbers were stuck at a point where it was impossible to get Black without fully restarting but I'm gonna continue on this loop for a while before restarting.

[Syrehn]

I'm hoping this is how it works. I'm trying for black and I'm in this Ink Blue > Kobold Brown > Deepwood Green loop. I'm hoping that if I just continue on this loop, eventually the RNG will skew the numbers just enough to get me in to Soot Black. My fear was that my numbers were stuck at a point where it was impossible to get Black without fully restarting but I'm gonna continue on this loop for a while before restarting.

If you end up hitting Ink Blue again try x2 Pineapples and x1 Valfruit.

[blueruckus]

If you end up hitting Ink Blue again try x2 Pineapples and x1 Valfruit.

Cool, will give that a shot and keep the thread updated. Current session ends at 3am PST, if that goes Ink again, I'll go 2x pineapples 1x Valfruit and update you at 9am PST.

If the 1x valfruit at the end does not proc... go with a second one until proc? Would that be too much change?

Also, if I end up back at Kobold Brown again... would you then recommend.... 2x Plums and 1x Pineapple?

[LuxBellator]

If you end up hitting Ink Blue again try x2 Pineapples and x1 Valfruit.

will this result in soot black?

[blueruckus]

will this result in soot black?

I just did this and went back to Kobold Brown.

[LuxBellator]

I just did this and went back to Kobold Brown.

thanks for the info^^