Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[FadingMoon]

Fc mate made got ash grey
6 or 7 darken blue, 3 lighten red, 3 lighten green, 6 darken green

http://imgur.com/68THsmL

[KilgoreT]

Got exactly what I wanted first try, a Slate Grey choco ^.^



Not sharing what I did to get it though :P



Jkjk, I fed 21 O'ghomo berries (darken blue), 7 Xelpatol Apples (darken red), and 7 mamook green things (darken green). Only a couple darker shades of grey/black available, I'd assume adding a couple more of each would give you charcoal grey, then a couple more of each on top of that for soot black?
Edit: Fixed image link

Nice. I did the same, but did 30/15/15 So I will see if I get a darker one.

[Eidolon]

For those curious. Just to reiterate, I did 10 of each 'lighten'

I'm going for white. So, I've decided to feed it Blues until it gets the 'Begin to grow new feathers!' message. Let's see what happens. I had to give it 4.

[16:23]Sage devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[16:23]Sage's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[16:23]Sage devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[16:24]Sage devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[16:24]Sage devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[16:24]Sage is beginning to grow new feathers!
[16:24]Sage's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.

[Carianta]

Doubtful. Seems pretty clear that multiple fruits are causing large differences (look at 2 apples versus three apples and some berries) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...view?sle=true#

However some fruits are from opposite ends of the spectrum. If you use a fruit that increases blue and another that lightens it you're not going to see much of a change, if any. Plums and Pineapples for example probably won't result in much blue growth if eaten at the same time.

[Chaud]

As we are now learning, your bird was probably only affected by ONE food, the question is, which one, and how many?

Eh, I'm gonna have to express my Disagreeance with that idea. I read the posts you're referring to, but prior to that I read that for example Darkening blue adds a small amount of blue and reduces a decent amount of red and green, Lightening blue might reduce a small amount of blue and add red and green. I feel like that lines up better with all the different colors we are seeing after a single session, because this idea supports what we are experiencing with people getting the same results with different combinations.

Either way, I certainly don't feel we're at the point where "probably" is applicable towards the idea of being affected by a single food.

[Ddragonfly1990]

So, based on what has been discovered so far if I put a lot of the "lighten" feed into my chocobo it would result in a Snow White plumage?

[Mishini_Dracoto]

I'm shocked we haven't seen more people trying to math this out and posting results on the forums. I'm using values posted into the google doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...view?sle=true# without having attempted this at all myself. I wish I knew more about this system (IE how many fruits until it says new feathers are growing) and what order which fruit were given to result in that



We can math this out by representing our colour variables as RGB OR CKMY. Since the Google doc displayed values in RGB, I picked those for my variables.

216R + 175G + 80B = Desert Yellow //Let's represent Various Colours Algebraically
180R + 158G + 130B = Gobbiebag Brown
193R + 109G + 31B = Pumpkin Orange
178R + 85G + 39B = Sunset Orange

Now, let's assign variables to the Fruit, and speculate on their effects
xenophus (X) = ?R
Doman (D) = -?R
Mamook (M) = ?G
Valfruit = -?G
O'ghomoro (O) = ?B
Cieldales (C) = -?B

Now, Take colour changes where only 1 Fruit was used, and isolate the effects of the Fruit.
Desert Yellow + O'Ghomoro Berry x11 = Gobbiebag Brown
216R + 175G + 80B + 11O = 180R + 158G + 130B
36R + 17G + (-50)B + 11O = 0
-11O = 36R + 17G - 50B
11O = 50B - 36R - 17G
O = 4.5B - 3.3R - 1.5G


Desert Yellow + Xelphatol Apple x11 = Pumpkin Orange
216R + 175G + 80B + 11X = 193R + 109G + 31B
23R + 66G + 49B + 11X = 0
-11X = 23R + 66G + 49B
X = -2R -6G -4.5B

Now take these Values, and see if they successfully create another known colour.
Desert Yellow + Xelphatol Apple x22 + O'Ghomoro Berry x3 = Sunset Orange
216R + 175G + 80B + 22X + 3O = 178R + 85G + 39B
216R + 175G + 80B + 22(-2R -6G -4.5B) + 3(4.5B - 3.3R - 1.5G) = 178R + 85G + 39B
216R + 175G + 80B - 44R - 132G - 99B - 9.9R - 4.5G + 13.5B = 178R + 85G + 39B
216R - 44R - 9.9R + 175G - 132G - 4.5G + 80B - 99B + 13.5B = 178R + 85G + 39B
162.1R + 38.5G -5.5B != 178R + 85G + 39B

So, while unsuccessful, I've learned a few things. Either I'm representing the Variables wrong by speculating with RGB, I did my Math wrong, OR, prior conclusions about feeding no longer working after it indicates new feathers are growing is correct. Also, if people are lying about their submissions, all of this data is grossly incorrect.

Another possibility however, is that where I am strictly using addition/subtraction, each fruit could be a multiplicative factor. IE, 1 X = R * 0.95.

Ran out of time, got to go. Hopefully this encourages more math to help us find good answers.

[Angelusdemonus]

Fc made got ash grey
6 or 7 darken blue, 3 lighten red, 3 lighten green, 6 darken green

http://imgur.com/68THsmL

I wanted blue, but I suppose this is good for science.

I also got Ash Grey but with very different feeds: 12 berries > 10 pineapples > 6 berries (18 berries total).

I got "grows new feathers" everytime after the first 3 berries feed.

[NoctisUmbra]

Basically if you look at the RGB value as three numbers like so: [R, G, B], the current theory is that the effects actually work like this:

LIGHTEN BLUE: [=, =, +B]
DEEPEN BLUE : [-R, -G, =]

LIGHTEN RED: [+R, =, =]
DEEPEN RED : [=, -G, -B]

LIGHTEN GREEN: [=, +G, =]
DEEPEN GREEN : [-R, =, -B]

Thus, to bring out blue, you have to use both the Lighten and Deepen fruits.

This theory seems to make the most sense so far given results people have been getting.

I have fed 22 berries (deepen blue) and 7 pears (deepen green)... based on the RGB values for the default Desert Yellow and this, I suspect I'll end up with a shade of blue.

Results in ~ 2 hrs. I will post when I see it.


Based on this, people going for the coveted black and white chocobos should spam 2 of the dark fruits (deepening) for black and all 3 light fruits (lightening) for white (mainly blue and green, only a little of the red).

[Dillia]

If my math is correct, for Blood Red the color scheme is 139, 52, 34. Thats a deviation from the base color of -77, -123, -46. It just so happens that 77+46 = 123
DEEPEN BLUE : [-R, -G, =], DEEPEN RED : [=, -G, -B]

So assuming a 6 point shift for each snack, that should take 7 deepen red, 13 deepen blue.

Please correct me if I am misremembering something from earlier in the thread, I will try to test this tonight and will have results tomorow.