By the 12!?: What About the Guardians?

[Altanas]

I liked the OP post before I finished reading the second paragraph, thumbs up

[Rimmer]

I liked the OP post before I finished reading the second paragraph, thumbs up

Thanks for pointing out that dirty great spoiler for me.. DOH! lol

[AceofRains]

Don't forget to check out the lore page as well, its just as fun a read ;D

[Pyrix]

All great ideas, none of which will be implemented because Square's too stupid to actually choose good ideas for their game.

[AceofRains]

All great ideas, none of which will be implemented because Square's too stupid to actually choose good ideas for their game.

Lmao maybe its the harsher quotes like this that will hopefully provoke them to do it. xD

[AceofRains]

This is yet another bump. :]

[AceofRains]

Grrr bump. I want some moar feedback this time xD

[Airget]

From what I understand...
Your choice of guardian doesn't have any affect on you. When activating your favor, I understand you get in general a skill point bonus? That doesn't seem much relevant to guardians to me, more like a daily bonus. So I would like some more info on the guardian system. (Not to distract everyone from the aftermath of 1.18 and all, just want a glimpse into something else other than people complaining about 1.18 and its own issues.)

A Modest Proposal
I propose giving characters special abilities that won't affect the fairness of having that particular Guardian, or skew the want for particular guardianship. Much to the affect of WoW's racial abilities (Yes, I'm citing WoW don't cry) a Guardian can function in a similar manner as an innate ability, that sometimes gives to you a little edge in your activities.

"You avow yourselves blessed by gods yet lack the capacity to summon them to your aid" -Ifrit R38 Mission

(re)Introducing your God(s)
Azeyma, the Warden - Azeyma is keeper of the sun and goddess of inquiry.
->Passive Skill: HP/MP Stroll - Recover HP and MP as you walk, whether you are in battle mode or not, but does not work when engaging a foe.
->Active Skill: Undecided
Nophica, the Matron - Nophica, tender of soils and harvests and goddess of abundance, is the guardian deity of Gridania.
->Passive Skill: Gatherer's Gift - Increases DoL Luck.
->Active Skill: Wall - Cast a Wall that bestows Protect, Shell, Stoneskin, and Shock Spikes cooldown 1 hour.
Thaliak, the Scholar - Thaliak, ruler of rivers and wisdom and god of knowledge, is the guardian deity of Sharlayan.
->Passive Skill:Item Lore - Increases the potency of an item.
->Active Skill:Libra - Allows one to see a foes elemental and physical weak points, as well as grants a bonus for exploiting them. Cool down 5 minutes
Llymlaen, the Navigator -Llymlaen, watcher of the seas and goddess of navigation, is the guardian deity of Limsa Lominsa.
->Passive Skill:Wide Scan - Allow you to see monsters on your map in a far range, as well as displays what type they are.
->Active Skill: Undecided
Halone, the Fury - Halone, mover of glaciers and goddess of war, is the guardian deity of Ishgard.
->Passive Skill: Ravager's Charge - Gives a bonus to physical attributes.
->Active Skill: Mighty Strikes - Lands a critical strike on every hit.
Byregot, the Builder - Byregot is the purveyor of architecture and industry and god of the arts.
->Passive Skill: Craftsmanship - Increases potency of DoH, allowing for more success rate and higher potential for High Quality items.
->Active Skill: Perfection - Grants a bonus to armor and weapon power. Cool down 30 minutes.
Nald'thal, the Traders - Nald'thal is the overseer of transactions and the underworld and god of commerce.
->Passive Skill:Gil Finder - A higher quantity of Gil drops when defeating a foe.
->Active Skill:Discount/Overcharge (Haggle) - Sell to an NPC for a higher prices as well and receive reduced prices.
Althyk, the Keeper - Althyk is the surveyor of change and space and god of time.
Passive Skill:Slow Time - Grant more time to your quest timer, does not work for party quests, until upgraded, or Anima Gift - Gives a few more anima to spend.
Active Skill:Temporal Shift - Halts enemy movement for a short time.
Nymeia, the Spinner - Nymeia is the watcher of celestial bodies and goddess of fate.
Passive Skill:Second Chance - Have 1 HP left after surviving an attack that should have killed you. Has a 10 minute cool down after activating.
Active Skill: Undecided...
Oschon, the Wanderer - Oschon is ruler of the mountains and god of vagrants.
Passive Skill:Second Wind - Bestows Raise after a certain time has passed and you have not already been raised. If used, there is a 1 hour cool down.
Active Skill:Quickening-Run faster.
Menphina, the Lover - Menphina is keeper of the twin moons and the goddess of love.
Passive Skill:Full Stomach-The effects of food last longer.
Active Skill: Charm-Make a foe fall in love with you, preventing it from attacking you, does not allow you use them as a pet. Decreases the a targets enmity towards you, less for higher level foes. cool down 10 minutes.
Rhalgr, the Destroyer -Rhalgr, breaker of worlds, is the god of destruction and guardian deity of the now fallen nation of Ala Mhigo.
Passive Skill:Mana Flow - Gives a bonus to your magical attributes.
Active Skill:Manafont - Cast without the use of MP, one hour cool down. or Critical Magic-Land a critical hit with every one of the spells you cast.

Guardian Levels
Some have voiced that storyline or lore would be great to introduce these abilities. I agree, however I believe you should start out with some skill, and do some kind of "Guardian Trial" to level up your Guardian skills. For example
Thaliak, the scholar
Lvl 1-------------- Lvl 2 ------------------------------------------ ------- Lvl 3
Item Lore-------- Item Lore II (Increases the potency of items.)---- Item Lore II (No Change)
Libra------------- Libra (Does not change this level)------------------ Libraga (Party wide libra)


Now post my children!
I have no idea to what extent these marginal passive or active skills can truly affect the gameplay, but if you have better idea, I'm sure you and the Devs would love to hear em right here in this thread :]

The 12 Resources (Not actually 12)
Eorzeapedia Deities
By the 12!? And now with Lore!

I would moreso propose introducing shrines for all the deities and giving the option to change if one wished to, however it would have to be done in the shrine. To raise your "faith" in a deity you could give tributes which could be done one a RL day for fame in that deity. Though you would be given two option, one option would be tributes that they always accept and the second would be the special tribute of that RL day, if you give them said tribute you would get 5x the normal fame. Basically they would add storyline quest to each deity so you could learn about each one and overall you would be given the opportunity to obtain unique traits and abilities for each deity, however you can only use said ability when you are aligned to the proper deity. Or perhaps you could also share between the same elemental affinity minus certain abilities.

The idea from the OP is good for a bare bones setup but overall I think it would be interesting to see a wide range of abilities to be obtainable from the deities. When I think of XIV, I think of true customization but the game is lacking that atm. While we were believed the class system would allow this, upon release it turned nothing more into using key staples from each class for everyone to be the same. True customization should be the ability to have a wide range of variables to work with to actually make each character unique from one another. When i saw GM I was also dissapointed with how bare bone that was, upon the actual release of the game I would like to see them adding new GM every now and then for each class til there's lik 100 for each class. While sure maybe they all aren't good for your playstyle at least there would be a lot of option to pick and choose from to play how you would like to play.

But ya I definitely want to hear if they have anything in mind for deities atm or if they haven't thought that far yet. it really does have the potential to add another variable in customization.

[AceofRains]

I would moreso propose introducing shrines for all the deities and giving the option to change if one wished to, however it would have to be done in the shrine. To raise your "faith" in a deity you could give tributes which could be done one a RL day for fame in that deity. Though you would be given two option, one option would be tributes that they always accept and the second would be the special tribute of that RL day, if you give them said tribute you would get 5x the normal fame. Basically they would add storyline quest to each deity so you could learn about each one and overall you would be given the opportunity to obtain unique traits and abilities for each deity, however you can only use said ability when you are aligned to the proper deity. Or perhaps you could also share between the same elemental affinity minus certain abilities.

The idea from the OP is good for a bare bones setup but overall I think it would be interesting to see a wide range of abilities to be obtainable from the deities. When I think of XIV, I think of true customization but the game is lacking that atm. While we were believed the class system would allow this, upon release it turned nothing more into using key staples from each class for everyone to be the same. True customization should be the ability to have a wide range of variables to work with to actually make each character unique from one another. When i saw GM I was also dissapointed with how bare bone that was, upon the actual release of the game I would like to see them adding new GM every now and then for each class til there's lik 100 for each class. While sure maybe they all aren't good for your playstyle at least there would be a lot of option to pick and choose from to play how you would like to play.

But ya I definitely want to hear if they have anything in mind for deities atm or if they haven't thought that far yet. it really does have the potential to add another variable in customization.

Yeah, great point man. I haven't added an afterthoughts section to the OP yet but I will soon. I like the idea of shrines! also it would be great to have some leeway to switch your guardian, although at a greater prices, because the guardian has an impact on your play style. I wouldn't want someone when it comes time to craft to just switch to Nophica, and then when it comes time to fight grab Halone.

I kept my post to such a basic set up cuz well the more detailed you get, the more angry and confused people tend to get. I haven't gotten much suggestion, other then corrections about Nymeia and Menphina, seeing more would totally improve the quality of this suggestion. As far as more skills go, I would be nice, but more skills 1) means more thinking, and 2) means skewing your character further from its regular job purposes. 1-2 abilities work at best to ensure nothing gets too overpowered.

[Rimmer]

I had this thought in another thread regarding death/ressurection and how to involve nameday guardians.

My thought is, when you die, your relevant nameday guardian appears before your corpse asking if you would like to:

• Return to <Nearest Camp> (You will have had to touch the aether at the game to be able to use this option.
• Return to <Home Point>.

After choosing one of the options the guardian would do a quick casting animation and then you appear at your home point or nearest camp. Just a basic idea really, lots of different things you could do with it.