New SB limitations - facts

[Martin_Arcainess]

I think I may understand what people are thinking here.

Yes, the required item level to enter for it is 55 but I think what Ultimatecailber/Ispano means that the dungoen stats of the enemies are more suited for a iLV70 geared party or either that you can get iLV70 gear from it. But I think SE edited to suit iLV55 people. Didn't they?

[Lexxuk]

@ Kiara - Halatali (Hard) drops DL gear which is ilvl 70.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Just found out why you SB is 0%

Check the patch note here,

"In order to address the issue of players undertaking a duty and then equipping gear lower than the required item level for the purpose of spirit bonding, the following adjustments have been made:
The rate at which gear gains spiritbond will now be reduced when gear is not the appropriate level for a given duty or open-world encounter. Furthermore, if the item level of gear is too high or too low, it will no longer gain spiritbond.

Example:
　Rubelite Ring (item level 49)

The ring will gain spiritbond at a reduced rate in duties such as the Labyrinth of the Ancients and Pharos Sirius, but will gain spiritbond at an increased rate in duties such as Castrum Meridianum and Wanderer's Palace.

Following the above changes to spiritbond gain, the probability of converting gear item level 70 or above into grade IV materia will now vary depending on the item level of the gear converted."

[SulwynCaliope]

Welp guess I'll start running i50 dungeons in full left and right side crafted SB gear. =_= I used to run them in left side only SB gear but i need to make up for this new change forced upon us so I shall be more efficient and SB both sides now in MSQ dungeons.

[ServerCollaps]

ilvl 100 gear gets sb in hullbreaker island

[SendohJin]

whatever drops Darklight is i70, that would be Brayflox HM, Halatali HM and Lost City.

[Fynlar]

Said this in the other thread but I'm gonna say it again here.

I think the idea here was sound but the execution is flawed.

Just looking at the example they gave... LotA and Pharos are practically entry-level dungeons for lv50s, with IL requirements that I'm sure are either at 50 or not much higher than 50. To me it's perfectly reasonable that a level 49 piece of gear should be able to spiritbond in there. But since it presumably can't, it kinda paints the picture that the requirements for spiritbonding are pretty unreasonably strict across the board. Spiritbonding is a big random pain in the ass as it is, I don't think they needed to make it more difficult.

Here's what I think they should have done (in addition to not being as uptight with the change that they did make):

1) Do not allow gear changes inside an instance; really, this shouldn't be and probably wasn't commonly done to begin with EXCEPT to get past IL entry requirements, and I think this change alone would solve more problems than it would cause
2) If your party is a full premade, allow them to spiritbond like normal like they could have before 2.35. Premades should be able to run however they want; if they want to run something to spiritbond they should be allowed to, and I'm sure this sort of change could be done because the system handles premade instances differently than DF instances (for instance, you cannot replace people that leave in a premade, whereas you can with DF groups).

[Bixby]

1) Do not allow gear changes inside an instance; really, this shouldn't be and probably wasn't commonly done to begin with EXCEPT to get past IL entry requirements, and I think this change alone would solve more problems than it would cause

But then you also screw people who forgot to change out of SB gear before hitting Commence. (Which is me, constantly, queueing for stuff while I'm killing my Animus book targets in SB gear.) Or anybody who has an ACC set for Coil 1 and a non-ACC set for everything else, and also forgets. I think they should do something to limit gear swapping within an instance, but outright disallowing it is a bit too much, IMO.

With you on the premade thing, though.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

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1) Do not allow gear changes inside an instance; really, this shouldn't be and probably wasn't commonly done to begin with EXCEPT to get past IL entry requirements, and I think this change alone would solve more problems than it would cause

So an upgrade drops and you win it, but not allowed to equip it? No thanks.

Edit to add: what happens to the SB rate when it's synced down to below level 50?

[Adrian74]

Check. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...farm-crystals.

Already posted there all what I thought about this and spiritbonding... I hope we can still using Duty Roulette Expert for i49 accesories.... Else, as somebody said, I'll have to make a full 11 pieces SB gear for low dungeons such as Wanderer's Palace for making it worth.... Damn, with the easy it was with the accesories... The full 11 can be still done easily for my weaver, have a good stock of felt... But armorer and the tank left pieces will be more annoying to make now.