New SB limitations - facts

[Coatl]

So what was the change related to i70 crafted gear exactly?

[Songi]

So what was the change related to i70 crafted gear exactly?

i70 gear no longer has a 100% chance of yielding IV materia. i90 doesn't either.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

All these numbers you guys are getting for rate of binding, are these with or without the spiritbind potion and/or the FC action?

[Kenji1134]

So what is the concluded "ideal" range?
Someone mentioned that items within 10 levels of the area bonded at some absurd rate...

So lets say we use a crafted I70 as an example.
Would that be ideal to bind in an I60 dungeon (Pharos, Haukke Hard, Copperbell Hard), an I70 Dungeon (Lost City, Bray Hard, Hali Hard), or an I80 Dungeon (Hullbreaker, TTD Hard, Vigil Hard)?

[StouterTaru]

ilvl90 is primed around expert dungeons, so I would say the old expert dungeons or below

[Kenji1134]

So [Area = Item Level - 10]
Guess and easy way tot est would be to take some crafted I48/49, and go kill lvl 38-40 mobs, see how many it takes to get 10% or so... Ill try that later.

[Manuka]

All these numbers you guys are getting for rate of binding, are these with or without the spiritbind potion and/or the FC action?

All the numbers I posted earlier were with NQ vendor gear with no HQ's, SB potions or the FC buff active.

So what is the concluded "ideal" range?
Someone mentioned that items within 10 levels of the area bonded at some absurd rate...

I think you got me reversed, the absurd rates I posted yesterday were items 10 +/- 4 ilevels below the mobs level. In your example bonding an item that's 10 levels higher than the mob will give a rate of about 5% every 10 killed (NQ and no materia or buffs). I guess the best way to think of it is rather than the steady incline the old SB rate was the new one is more like a bell curve that peaks at 10 levels below the mob.

Also dungeons seem to behave differently than the overworld in that there are set caps for ilvl ranges ie. ST can only bind i90 while the old HM's can only bind i70 I believe.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Could someone check SB rates of i55 gathering and crafting gear on 1 star mats and items?

Edit: 1 Star crafts seem to spiritbond at roughly .2%.

[Waeksyn]

I did Castrum with crafting accessories - all HQ and all with a random T1 or TII materia (mostly TII which seem to be cheaper than TI most of the time).
i49 neck - net gain +85%
i45 ear - net gain +84%
i46 wrist - +112%
i47 ring - +104%

This is much faster SB than before. Looks like those that simply want to SB will be able to do it much faster now. Those that combined SB with other goals (tomes, dailies, etc). not so much.

BTW, got 5 materia, including 2 TIV for the run. Normally with these accessories, i get about 10% TIV conversion rate.

[SulwynCaliope]

I did Castrum with crafting accessories - all HQ and all with a random T1 or TII materia (mostly TII which seem to be cheaper than TI most of the time).
i49 neck - net gain +85%
i45 ear - net gain +84%
i46 wrist - +112%
i47 ring - +104%

This is much faster SB than before. Looks like those that simply want to SB will be able to do it much faster now. Those that combined SB with other goals (tomes, dailies, etc). not so much.

BTW, got 5 materia, including 2 TIV for the run. Normally with these accessories, i get about 10% TIV conversion rate.

Basically the same conclusion that I have come to after a full day with this patch. I'm SBing faster than ever now and once people start catching on to this, materia prices will probably start plummeting. I've SBed 2 sets full sets of equips (left and right side) after just 3 runs in castrum. So for about an hour and a half's worth of work I'm getting about 22 materias of which some are TIVs.