Fix Dragoon jumps

[ChaozK]

I reckon if they changed it now, they would end up having some DRGs getting into places they should. Meaning they would have to implement invisible wall after invisible wall into places they haven't yet covered.

Also, it would be much easier to program the way it is now and implement.

Simples. Although I would prefer it myself but it could lead to other issues like performing a dive while in a hallway/tunnel. You end up going through the roof and this could cause a series of issues.

Technically this wouldn't be an issue since you need a target for all jumps and you cant target through walls or get to places with no enemies on them. Exception would be elusive jump but this one could just be excluded from the changes and considering the horizontal movement of the animation, it wouldnt make sense anyhow for elusive jump to ignore terrain.

Yoshi decided to go for that route because he tought that the players would use a party of only DRG for some fights with unavoidable damage (mainly hit kill / wipe mechanics). And what you are asking for is essencially a few frames of pure invencibility.

I get that reasoning but just as they made certain mechanics able to ignore hallowed ground of PLDs, they could just do the same for jumps. Also the majority of wipe mechanics dont have targets available the moment they hit, so jumps couldnt be used.

Really more playing devils advocate here more than anything, i think jumps are fine.

[Bixby]

parable movement

Man, don't need no Dragoons jumpin' around talkin' about sowin' seeds or losin' sheep or whatnot.

[KrauserX]

l2jump

/10char

Someone who not studied maths

[KrauserX]

I've posted an ilustration because people seems to not understand nothing http://oi58.tinypic.com/2earrlc.jpg

[Pyreflye]

Someone who not studied maths

Someone who has not studied English.

[Barboron]

Technically this wouldn't be an issue since you need a target for all jumps and you cant target through walls or get to places with no enemies on them. Exception would be elusive jump but this one could just be excluded from the changes and considering the horizontal movement of the animation, it wouldnt make sense anyhow for elusive jump to ignore terrain.

My point is still valid as what I had in mind when typing it is in dungeons. Tam-Tara has lots of low ceiling tunnels, there's also Haukke Manor, and areas around Eorzea this would apply to.

[Maero]

Problem with the drg jumps is the few seconds after were your stuck not being able to do anything so yes that would need a fix, many drgs have died because of it, lol

[KrauserX]

So, because I don't care for your idea, that makes me a "retard" and that I did not study English? Christ, you can't take criticism at all.

Ok, fine, I'll break down your idea.
1) There is nothing wrong with being hit by AoEs. SE has discussed this.
How about you learn to pay attention and not use a Jump skill when an AoE is about to be used.

Learning fights is hard, right?

2) You do not get hit by AoE if you are jumping over them.

3) Your picture is completely wrong.
If there is an item in the way, or LoS is broken, you do not magically end up next to said item, you are returned to your original placement near instantly.

You are spouting bs, and calling me a "retard" simply because you can't handle simple criticism tells me all I need to know about you.

Good day.

The only who is wrong here are you come to my post saying l2jump instead of answer normally when this is serious Dragoon bug

[File2ish]

I must say, while it would be ideal for dragoons to have Jump ignore terrain (or actually jump over stuff and have it be invulnerable to AoEs or avoid them altogether while the character is in the air) it would be pretty overpowered in the sense you could use Jump, Dragonfire Drive, and the stun jump (I can't remember the name) to avoid damage altogether.

The only who is wrong here are you come to my post saying l2jump instead of answer normally when this is serious Dragoon bug

As for it being a bug: it like isn't. It was most likely intended to avoid exploitation of the move in fights and to traverse areas (i.e. using elusive jump to get up to places you normally couldn't get to). As for Pyreflye's comment, I read it like it was in jest. This is the internet.

[KrauserX]

More than avoid exploits if this is intentional is because SE programmers don't want to do some effort programming a nice jump, just too much for them program a parable jump calculating the terrain.