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    I find this conversation actually funny. Aren't we all taking this event a tad bit too serious. XD

    There's nothing to even win but a shiny title that almost nobody will truely care about. I do agree however on what was said about the voting and all. But then I realise, isn't it exactly the reason why it's vague. This allows for everyone to get a vote in some way or another.

    Perhaps you love the screenshot and with it conveys. ( Drawn in by scenario and the vibe/story it tells)
    Or...
    Perhaps you're so smitten with the model and pose. (Drawn in by the charm that the model is giving off)

    Both are very viable ways to me for people to vote. Because in the end people are voting because that screenshot drew them in and caught their interest. Previous cycle, there was Rukirii who took great and fitting screenshots and so did Morina. But for me in Rukirii's case, I would have voted for the global feel of the screenshot. While in Morina's case, I'd have voted on how the model was posed, because I was smitten by Morina's character.(and saddened with the hair change rounds D

    Just something to think about. I do have my own constructive critique to give at the end of this cycle to the organizers.

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    Damn I was hoping to get my post up before Rongi replied. I'm supportive off the current voting system. I haven't seen a round where people didn't get the deserved amount of votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vydos View Post
    Just something to think about. I do have my own constructive critique to give at the end of this cycle to the organizers.

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    Damn I was hoping to get my post up before Rongi replied. I'm supportive off the current voting system. I haven't seen a round where people didn't get the deserved amount of votes.
    Haha beat you too it Ron! :P

    You might as well give the criticism now, see if it can change anything for the better since so many people are upset with the event. ; ;
    On a side note, I really do appreciate everyone saying organizerS with an S to lighten the blow at comments directed at me, but just say me, because I am the only organizer, and I take full responsibility for any complaints you all have. ^^;;
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    Oh and just a note, that will either make people happier or more upset, xD, I actually told the judges to stop giving 0s as scores. So it's been 1-3 since the official rounds started.

    and we are getting a TON more votes now than we were in the PR rounds, so with this many voters participating...maybe I need to increase the Judges scores from 1-3 to 1-5 maybe? I dunno. You guys decide. -_- I am so distraught from seeing you all upset. I love all of you so I hate that something I created is making you guys sad.
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    Are you guys saying the judges are giving the models who take risky shots/comedic shots too high scores or too low scores? Maxwell's from Round 2 was cute and funny, but not a model shot...but because it had an overall good feel I gave it a 2.
    I think that's a fair assessment, for sure. I don't focus on the model-aesthetic like some people because I don't think that's my strength. So I'd rather have fun and keep playing to that aesthetic. Hopefully that doesn't make critics or other contestants frustrated

    And similar to how Kurri feels, if I get eliminated from it, so be it. I want go out having fun.
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    I empathize with the perspective of people who find harsh criticism exactly what it is — harsh — but I'm not upset. I recognize the effort everyone has put into both sides of this event, and I've greatly enjoyed my time taking shots for it. (Even though I've been working on it to the exclusion of most other things in 14 right now...) No, it's not perfect. Nothing is. But I'm certain I'm not the only one.
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    Unfortunaly for you Rongi, my critique had nothing that could solve the voting system lol. Besides, I like how it is.

    But my only critique is about the idea of making an event where both males & female characters are competing against each other. Especially for a competition about models. I would have preferred males and females to be seperate. And have a winner for each gender. And perhaps make a for fun final round to see who of the two wins. Because, let's be honest here. As a straight man, I will be naturally more inclined to vote on the female characters than the male. Unless there are screenshots that naturally stand out like this rounds Vahn and Jayzan.

    I know I would not have voted on myself for the screenshot I submitted this round lol. But then again, seperating by gender might give you a harder job.

    Final word: You're doing a REALLY good job Rongi with this event. And I love all the rounds that you come up with. (Except round 5+6 for the reasons I mailed you lol D: )
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    I'm not upset. at all. just to be clear.

    i just see Yomi's frustration as i've felt similar. I dont think anyone is saying those eliminated shouldnt have been or your voting system is flawed. i think Yomi's point was that she didnt understand why some shots got a lot of votes when she felt it was a weak picture. thus, frustration set in.
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    @Tins I just want to make that frustration go away. You guys have to tell me how.

    @Ron If I ever do a gender specific cycle again, it will not be at the same time as the other gender is going on. xD Someone else can do a mens only if they want. I'll stick with girls. >_>; xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by EorzeasNTM View Post
    @Tins I just want to make that frustration go away. You guys have to tell me how.

    I sort of think it's a permanent side effect of the entire process. everyone has different aesthetics and / or different reasons for picking particular pictures. All anyone can do is accept that fact, vote for the ones you like the best and let the chips fall where they may.

    Maybe adding in a "example" pic, like Tyra does for each round, that gives a general feel for the shoot.. Or having the models submit three possible screenshots and you/your judges pick "their best shot" to be put up for the voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinsley View Post
    I sort of think it's a permanent side effect of the entire process. everyone has different aesthetics and / or different reasons for picking particular pictures. All anyone can do is accept that fact, vote for the ones you like the best and let the chips fall where they may.
    This x100.

    I'm not personally fond of the idea of submitting multiple shots and having other people choose one, though. That adds a random element of 'what if'. Right now, though we may take many shots, the ultimate choice is up to us, and if it doesn't work, it's our responsibility. Putting that responsibility on someone else doesn't strike me as a wise idea.
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