OFFICIAL Eorzea's Next Top Model Discussion Thread

[Noxifer]

I'll make fates color a little lighter, and if any of yall want me to change your color let me know! ^^,

Or, since his colour is dark, you could just make the actual text light grey so it's readable :3

I wish we had an actual "screenshot" mode you could put your character in, that way you could move the picture over to right and left instead of just up and down, that would be amazering!

That would be awesome, yes! I mean, you can sort of work around it when you're just standing around, or doing some general emote, but when you need to do an emote towards something other than the lock-on target... it's hell XD Been sitting around for hours watching Rhaya struggle with shots (and this time around doing my best to keep her alive XD it got a LOT easier once I remembered SoS to keep me from drawing the mob away). This one time, in Mor Dhona, I was on my knees in front of her for days (Eorzea Time), trying to get a good shot out!

[AdamFyi]

I kinda want that screenshot mode. I've seen a lot of MMO's that allow you to do it by pressing the pause break button to freeze the current location of the camera and you could run around without the camera following you.

[Jinxie]

lol I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing you. XD I love the pic you submitted, and rightfully considering the amount of votes you're getting. I just thought the idea of a floating dog head would be a good minion. So if you decide you're done with it, toss it my way. I'd name it chewy, and he'd chew people taller than me at the knees.

<3

I would love a decent screenshot mode too, le-sigh.

[Yamimarik]

lol I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing you. XD I love the pic you submitted, and rightfully considering the amount of votes you're getting. I just thought the idea of a floating dog head would be a good minion. So if you decide you're done with it, toss it my way. I'd name it chewy, and he'd chew people taller than me at the knees.

<3

I would love a decent screenshot mode too, le-sigh.

Oh no!! I'm sorry lol, I didn't mean it as a bad thing, I find it hilarious lol because when I took the pic and inspected the one I really wanted (I took this picture like x100, to make sure I got one, b/c ppl kept coming and going, that place is busy with people lol) I just never noticed the head of the dog would be "floating" lol I still don't see it, but that's probably b/c I took the actual shot and saw the dog as a whole before hand haha, if I ever find a floating dog head, I will gladly give it to you Jinxie!!! <3

[EorzeasNTM]

RONGI MAIL!!!

As the Youtube models are submitting their final submissions for their 8 rounds, I've been thinking, and I want to bring this up with you guys.

LadyVal brought it up during Cycle 2, a Photoshoot mentor. How does everyone else feel about it?

I wanted to try it out for Cycle Youtube, and the process has been as such.
1) The model submits one photo per round.
2) I critique each shot. Sometimes, the photo submitted are absolutely awesome. And I tell them to not change a thing! Other times, I have told them to uncenter themselves, change their outfit or background, or rework the lighting. The only thing I think I have tried not to do is tell them to rework the entire concept they have for the shot, just tell them what I think they should do to make their concept come together as a good screen shot.
3) The model then submits up to 3 photos, and of those 3 (+ the original photo they submitted) I tell them which I liked the best.
4) On November 30th, the Model will be submitting their final selections to submit to the judges.

Honestly, I have absolutely LOVED the experience. And I've seen 4 of the models final submissions so far and they really took my critiques to heart and submitted some great photos.

I would absolutely love to bring this Mentor System to Cycle 4, if our community (we need a name! ENTMers?) wants it.

Unfortunately it does open up the "The mentor purposefully told me something bad so I would get eliminated!" can of worms. The only way around this that I can see is making the Mentors Critiques public, possibly here on the forum, but without showing the Model's photo (because it ruins the surprise and allows other models to copy ideas!). If anyone else has any suggestions for how we can eliminate this problem from creeping up, please let me know!

I trust myself, and I hope all of you trust me as well, and the YT models are more than welcome to post their critiques I have sent to them here so you can all see that I put my heart into each critique to help the models succeed. The only problem is, I am planning on entering myself into Cycle 4, either the boys or girls contest, so we will need a new Mentor to step up...One that pinky promises not to give bad critiques to help their friend/favorite model win the competition.

The floor is open for discussion! ^^

Also, after discussing it with the other Judges of this Cycle, we are considering introducing a Judge's Save in Cycle 4. This would involve a majority vote from all 9 judges to pass (5/4). This is also up for discussion, so please share your thoughts.

My proposal for the Judging Save is that for the model to qualify for the ability to be saved, they must have a position in the Top 3 in at LEAST 3 rounds, which means the first Judging Save cannot start being used until Round 4. Example: Model A comes in Second in Round 2, Third in Round 3, Fourth in Round 4, First in Round 5, and is Eliminated in Round 6. Because she was in Second, Third, and First in Rounds 2, 3, and 5, she qualifies for the Judge's Save, and the Judges can vote to save her. If 5 or more of the judges agree, the Model will be saved from Elimination. And of course, this can only happen once per cycle, and it must happen before the Final 3.

[Tinsley]

a Photoshoot mentor. How does everyone else feel about it?

I like the idea of having a mentor the models can go to for advice and/or a objective opinion. I know it's easy for the models to get too close to the shots and having someone give an honest opinion or advice would be helpful.

Ultimately i think the final submission should be made by the model and the mentor should only be a sounding board to avoid any hard feelings or placing blame.

Also, after discussing it with the other Judges of this Cycle, we are considering introducing a Judge's Save in Cycle 4. This would involve a majority vote from all 9 judges to pass (5/4). This is also up for discussion, so please share your thoughts.

I'm on the fence about this honestly only because it might give a sense of favoritism, intended or not. I also feel each round should be judged on it's own to avoid any leftover bias. The only round i'd judge the past entries on would be the final to view the whole portfolio.

Question: if the model at the bottom was saved, would the next to last be sent home? Or would there be a double elim the next round? Everything has to balance out somehow.

[AmalahRose]

I've noticed a couple of people commenting how washed out my character looks. It was actually intentional, the Sylph's faces are fairly featureless so in the interests of blending in I tried to emulate the same. Hasn't worked out, but sometimes you have to try taking a risk. :P

Anyway, here are the shots that didn't make it.

This first one was my very favourite, and the one I was going to submit before reading in the email that there had to be an NPC in the shot. *sniffs*



This next one I kind of liked, but I wasn't quite sure why I was looking so angry at the Sylph. I suppose it could have pranked me, but the Sylph looks genuinely mystified about my behaviour.



And here is one for the outtakes.

Lowena Fae: BRAAAAAAAINS!
Sylph: WTF is that one doing?

[EorzeasNTM]

I did not even notice you were wearing make up in the shot you submitted for Judging! haha.

This picture is beautiful though! Please find a way to use it somewhere, somehow! Signature or something maybe?

[AmalahRose]

I did not even notice you were wearing make up in the shot you submitted for Judging! haha.

This picture is beautiful though! Please find a way to use it somewhere, somehow! Signature or something maybe?

I will try, at the very least I'll use it as a desktop wallpaper sometime. Thanks Rongi. ^^

Edit: OMG there were NPCs in my favourite shot. That would have counted right? RIGHT!?

[Adeline]

RONGI MAIL!!!

As the Youtube models are submitting their final submissions for their 8 rounds, I've been thinking, and I want to bring this up with you guys.

LadyVal brought it up during Cycle 2, a Photoshoot mentor. How does everyone else feel about it?

I wanted to try it out for Cycle Youtube, and the process has been as such.
1) The model submits one photo per round.
2) I critique each shot. Sometimes, the photo submitted are absolutely awesome. And I tell them to not change a thing! Other times, I have told them to uncenter themselves, change their outfit or background, or rework the lighting. The only thing I think I have tried not to do is tell them to rework the entire concept they have for the shot, just tell them what I think they should do to make their concept come together as a good screen shot.
3) The model then submits up to 3 photos, and of those 3 (+ the original photo they submitted) I tell them which I liked the best.
4) On November 30th, the Model will be submitting their final selections to submit to the judges.

Honestly, I have absolutely LOVED the experience. And I've seen 4 of the models final submissions so far and they really took my critiques to heart and submitted some great photos.

I would absolutely love to bring this Mentor System to Cycle 4, if our community (we need a name! ENTMers?) wants it.

Unfortunately it does open up the "The mentor purposefully told me something bad so I would get eliminated!" can of worms. The only way around this that I can see is making the Mentors Critiques public, possibly here on the forum, but without showing the Model's photo (because it ruins the surprise and allows other models to copy ideas!). If anyone else has any suggestions for how we can eliminate this problem from creeping up, please let me know!

I trust myself, and I hope all of you trust me as well, and the YT models are more than welcome to post their critiques I have sent to them here so you can all see that I put my heart into each critique to help the models succeed. The only problem is, I am planning on entering myself into Cycle 4, either the boys or girls contest, so we will need a new Mentor to step up...One that pinky promises not to give bad critiques to help their friend/favorite model win the competition.

The floor is open for discussion! ^^

After Cycle 3 ends for me, I am very much interested in participating more with ENTM, whether it be public vote + critiques or judging (or both!), so I'd be very much for this sort of concept! I think it would greatly help new models get a feel for what we've learned, and understand what the public and judges are looking for in shots