OFFICIAL Eorzea's Next Top Model Discussion Thread

[pageybear]

I like option 1 the best, followed by option 3 and i think option 2 is just terrible so don't do that one!

I have decided not to enter again. Mostly all the whining and complaining has made me not want to. I will still follow the contest and vote though.

[Parodine]

My only concern with option 2/3 is that if someone is very consistently towards the top (w/ with the tallied votes), I wonder how voters will feel motivated to vote toward the later rounds. Like, why bother if it's already mathematically set in stone? It also kind of hampers people growing through the competition. Like if you do poorly in the beginning but your later pics are phenomenal, you probably don't stand a chance to someone who was consistently above average even if they weren't necessarily top 3. I don't know how likely that is since the top photos have sort of been shaken up week to week, just wondering about 'what if' kinda scenarios.

People will be able to keep track of total votes pretty easily. While I don't want to stick with option 1 for the drama aspect, I sort of fear the final rounds won't mean very much with any other options.

A better system I think, if you guys really wanted to keep the current system as is, would be to maybe do double eliminations on a biweekly basis. So instead of just basing eliminations off of 1 picture, it'll be based off 2. Even if one picture is weak, as long as the other is strong, the model will still have a chance of surviving. In order to ensure that the work load on the models isn't increased, make it a double elimination every other week.

I like this idea potentially as a compromise between options 1 and 2/3. I don't really like the idea of a judge's save (I do think it would be drama personally) but I do agree some rounds people have uncharacteristic flops or just don't get a theme. I think it might provide a bit of a cushion to help out.

[NarikoStar]

I personally like riskier stakes. If using option 2 and 3 I wouldn't look at this as a competition at any point anymore. I don't see any reason for a model to 'try their best' and risk anything. Additionally, if model A wins 2-3 times in a row, they /could/ technically be lazy on said next shoot and not risk anything/ put much time into the photo- and thus really not need to worry about being sent home. Judge & player critiques really wouldn't mean much seeing as their going to be staying the entire time and judges would simply be used as a tally up holder.

I wouldn't want to deem someone ENTM unless they prove to be aggressive and fierce every round. If they emo out over not being picked / not getting votes / upset about going home because their picture was the lowest that round regardless of having a decent portfolio, this contest probably wasn't for them in the first place.

[EorzeasNTM]

@Double Photo Elimination Idea - I don't hate this idea as much as I hate Option 2, Option 3, or a Model Save Feature. xD

If this is what Tyriont decides on, I'd be fine with it.

Instead of calling it a Double Photo or Bi-Weekly Elimination though, I would ask that you call the first photo a Weekly/Round Challenge and make it a Scenic Picture (River, Forest, Starry Night, etc) and call the second photo "this round's theme" or "this week's photoshoot" and make it be a Theme (NPC Coordination, Library) or an Action Shot (Ifrit's Cauldron).

This way it still resembles the show, models have two chances before they are eliminated, and models are still eliminated.

So my vote is, and will always be, Option 1 but if not that, than Option 4 (two pics/per elimination) sounds great too. ^^

I have decided not to enter again. Mostly all the whining and complaining has made me not want to.

If you did want to enter again. the YouTube cycle sounds like it'd be a better fit for you! The youtube videos and forums might be filled with "whining and complaining" but only the people who come to the forum/read the comments will see them, and since the series is finished before any of it is even uploaded all their comments will be fan talk. ^^

[Kaiyoko]

Adding on to what Nari and Maxwell have already said (I agree with most of it)

Keeping everyone around would destroy the narrative of the competition. What I mean by this is there is a model that had been struggling in the early rounds of the competition just barely getting by each round. Each round the model gets better and better to where they are winning rounds and not just skimming by. The model then ends up winning the competition because of their hard work towards getting better and becoming one of the best in the shoots. This creates a story for the competition and makes it more interesting. This narrative is completely ruin by the idea of keeping all 12 the whole time.

I think the double elimination is a good compromised though. Models can have a bad shot and still can still try to save themselves with a great shot in the 2nd round of the set. Models that are strong both sets wont need to worry about being eliminated. I'm not sure how each round will work out time wise, but if it's anything like this Cycle we will have 2 rounds a week which would work out to have the 1st round the 1/2 of the week and then the 2nd round the 2nd half and then the results get posted on Sunday.

Only question I have is, how are you going to join the boys and girls with options 2 & 3?

[Kaelah]

I agree with you guys actually so I'll change my vote to stay the same I guess. If you can't deal with being in the bottom sometimes then don't sign up people.

Only question I have is, how are you going to join the boys and girls with options 2 & 3?

...and this is a fabulous point!

[pageybear]

I agree with you guys actually so I'll change my vote to stay the same I guess. If you can't deal with being in the bottom sometimes then don't sign up people.



...and this is a fabulous point!

Yes that is an excellent catch there. How will you merge the two? o.o

[Tyriont]

When merging, the top scoring models would be taken from each contest and go into the final rounds with a clean slate. Please keep the discussion going though! We'll never get 100% agreement on which is the 'best' way to do it, so I'm watching to see if gaping holes emerge in any proposed method and if one emerges as generally more popular

[Soleless]

If you wanted to use Option 3 but still keep the elimination aspect, maybe eliminate models with the lowest points after certain rounds? Although that could lead to complications and be a hassle to manage too.

[whoopeeragon]

I kinda like Option 3 but with an additional twist, which I'm not sure will sit well with you but an idea is an idea.

I seem to recall Rongi sending an email to the contestants at the beginning with the theme for each week all the way to the end (or something along those lines). Depending on how many weeks/models there are, I instead think you could send the contestants the themes for the first half, say 6 weeks, and then do an elimination of the models with the lowest points. At that point, the remaining contestants get the themes for the remaining weeks, and given a week/fortnight times to gather their shots before having a final elimination at the end.

Either way, a new way of doing things always keeps a contest exciting.

(Long-time lurker of ENTM...)