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  1. #21
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Not sure why people want "Easy" mode for the first Coil, since it is already on easy mode now....Yeah I do agree the lack of "knowledge" on how to play your job correctly and how to work together in a group and make sure to practice the DDR or DIE DIE move so you can perform your jiggity dance to avoid getting one shotted. DF in American servers do tend to be on the worst side in terms of player's quality - no one seems to know what Party Finder is, and no one seems to understand what "let's make a group and practice" and use Party Finder for this...
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  2. #22
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    Vinroke's Avatar
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    Ellis Slater
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    That's in the game already. Passing it requires 2 things:
    1.A good connection (having someone d'c during fireballs in t5 or voice in t7 is rather annoying) and
    2. Paying attention
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    "Alot" is not a word. Allot is but it's unlikely to be what you want, try "A lot".

  3. #23
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    Muzetta Riventa
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    Phoenix
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    After having beaten T5 with my FC a few days ago, I can say with confidence that T5 really isn't as hard as what people make it out to be. Just grab a group of friends/FC members/people you trust enough who are willing to fully focus on it and you'll get it down in no time. Certainly no need to be putting in an easy mode.

    Just keep going at it until you manage to get past the dreadknight/twister phase and you have yourself a win. (The last phase is extremely easy, hence why I say guaranteed win)
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    Last edited by Muzetta; 08-19-2014 at 04:22 PM.

  4. #24
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    the reason why people dont ever get past T5, myself included, is because once you get that first wipe, everyone abandons. so it doesnt matter how skilled you are, or how easy it has been to to complete for you, if you DF T5, nobody is going to help the new people. and it sucks. the farthest ive gotten was phase 3? we had just killed the snakes, and we got our 3rd wipe, and everyone abandoned.
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  5. #25
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    The farthest ive gotten was phase 3? we had just killed the snakes, and we got our 3rd wipe, and everyone abandoned.
    NA servers? Those DF groups tend to abandon everything fast. They expect you to be ultra perfect the first time, no wipe etc.... Speed run!!!!, don't give a rat ass on everyone else wether they can catch up or not. SKIP everything!! FAST FAST FAST!! Someone on reddit posted that Japan group use PF to practice and DF to kill things fast. My experience tend to be much much much better with the Japan server compared to NA servers. When most Pick Up Groups via DF on NA servers couldn't barely kill Ultima Weapon Hard Mode (we didn't abandoned, but we timed out) - and wiped over and over on Labyrinth of Ancients, I knew it was time to cough up $18 and move out from NA servers...
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  6. #26
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    Maximum Panda
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    the reason why people dont ever get past T5, myself included, is because once you get that first wipe, everyone abandons. so it doesnt matter how skilled you are, or how easy it has been to to complete for you, if you DF T5, nobody is going to help the new people. and it sucks. the farthest ive gotten was phase 3? we had just killed the snakes, and we got our 3rd wipe, and everyone abandoned.
    A good FC definitely helps with stuff like this. Our FC has been helping quite a few of people get their first T5 wins, some of who never even seen past conflags before. I solo-tank so we have an extra-DPS, and usually just leave the new person dead if they die at divebomb/twister so to eliminate the risk of them mpk-ing someone else in the latter phases. Yes, it's basically a "carry" party but they just want to get it done and out of the way, so we help them out lol.
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  7. #27
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    Raxion Gunsoul
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    Brynhildr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I really don't see how they could make T5 any easier outside of just turning the fight mechanics off altogether. I'd have to say that if you're still stuck on T5, you just might not have enough time to play an MMORPG at all. With the 20% Echo buff, free i110 gear being handed out, and no lockout whatsoever, there's really no reason that even a DF group shouldn't be able to steamroll Twintania by now.
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  8. #28
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    Maximum Panda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxion View Post
    I really don't see how they could make T5 any easier outside of just turning the fight mechanics off altogether. I'd have to say that if you're still stuck on T5, you just might not have enough time to play an MMORPG at all. With the 20% Echo buff, free i110 gear being handed out, and no lockout whatsoever, there's really no reason that even a DF group shouldn't be able to steamroll Twintania by now.
    I think the real issue with people not passing T5 are the instant-death mechanics involved in it such as twister/dreads. Also don't forget just 1 person not knowing divebombs can mpk the whole party by themselves. You still see people having problems in Titan-EX for similar reasons. T7 as another example will be a block for a lot of people regardless of echo unless they actually change/nerf the actual mechanics involved in it. Actually, even T6 probably has enough mechanics involved where simply having echo and trying to brute-force your way to victory won't work.
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    Last edited by zPanda; 08-19-2014 at 04:34 PM.

  9. #29
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    Vinroke's Avatar
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    Ellis Slater
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raxion View Post
    I really don't see how they could make T5 any easier outside of just turning the fight mechanics off altogether. I'd have to say that if you're still stuck on T5, you just might not have enough time to play an MMORPG at all. With the 20% Echo buff, free i110 gear being handed out, and no lockout whatsoever, there's really no reason that even a DF group shouldn't be able to steamroll Twintania by now.
    This right here is part of the problem, having higher gear in t1,2 and 4 allows players to flat-out ignore several mechanics of those turns - such a thing is simply not possible in t5
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    "Alot" is not a word. Allot is but it's unlikely to be what you want, try "A lot".

  10. #30
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    SoulKhan's Avatar
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    Khan Noonien'singh
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I am all up for the OP's post yeah... lets have it all easy mode! I don't care really ive done coil way back but I have no reason to even want to do it with how bad the groups were back then and it was easy sailing back then just not everyone was on the same page. Would be nice to have something we could all just enjoy and not sht talk each other on
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