How about... an easy mode Coil?

[Krystal_]

They already said they will not make first coil easier. Period. They said it. Sorry to disappoint but it doesnt get much easier than it already is. As people have said, there's groups that 4-5 man T5 coil now because of how simple it is. If you can't beat coil with how simple it is now, you might consider a different game.

Edit: 80% of the server can pass T5. Not the other way around. 80%+ I would say at this point. If you can't beat T5 with i110 gear so easy to get (just have to put the time into hunting) than you will NEVER beat the SCoB turns because they are all about mechanics....

[zPanda]

They already said they will not make first coil easier. Period. They said it. Sorry to disappoint but it doesnt get much easier than it already is. As people have said, there's groups that 4-5 man T5 coil now because of how simple it is. If you can't beat coil with how simple it is now, you might consider a different game.

Edit: 80% of the server can pass T5. Not the other way around. 80%+ I would say at this point. If you can't beat T5 with i110 gear so easy to get (just have to put the time into hunting) than you will NEVER beat the SCoB turns because they are all about mechanics....

I actually find T6 to be easier than T5 in a lot of ways. The only insta-death mechanic in T6 simply requires you to disengage and not touch your controls lol.

Also, and I know most people won't be honest about this either. How many people have beaten T5 (before echo) without the use of the Twintania App (which clearly indicates death sentence, and makes avoiding Dive-bombs and Twisters much easier ? ) ? Most people won't be honest about answering this - I can guarantee you that lol...

[Barboron]

You know what the most interesting paradox about this thread in regards to not only this game but other MMORPG in general is ?

If there wasn't content that 80% of the population couldn't pass, would the 20% of the population who can pass that content even bother playing the game at all ?

Think about it...

They do, and they sit around doing nothing

[Radacci]

They already said they will not make first coil easier. Period. They said it. Sorry to disappoint but it doesnt get much easier than it already is. As people have said, there's groups that 4-5 man T5 coil now because of how simple it is. If you can't beat coil with how simple it is now, you might consider a different game.

Edit: 80% of the server can pass T5. Not the other way around. 80%+ I would say at this point. If you can't beat T5 with i110 gear so easy to get (just have to put the time into hunting) than you will NEVER beat the SCoB turns because they are all about mechanics....

wrong, you're overestimating the crowd, based on your own progression. There's lots of ppl that haven't even started Coil, much less cleared T5.
gear doesnt matter in the slightest, if you get hit by twisters. Most ppl die to divebombs or twisters (if they can even output enough DPS, to get conflags down -.-)
I wouldn't say 80% cant clear it, but it's def not 80% of server that can; not even half.
Maybe if they got rid of scourges, fireballs, death sentence, conflags, divebombs, twisters, and dreads, hatches, and halved Twins damage, maybe then 80% could clear it...
getting carried doesn't count obviously.

[Krystal_]

Twintania only has 1 insta-death mechanic which is easily avoidable by using focus target on her and seeing when she cats twister then then you.... run in a circle! lol not really a hard thing/ Divebombs hard? Stack in a hole, see a green marker, run up > run back. WOW that's difficult! With the echo buff Conflags and Dreds arent even an issue. Sorry but I dont feel bad for people who can't beat t5. And yes, I beat it before echo was added. And no, I didnt have APP when I beat it.

[zPanda]

80%? 20%?

Where are you getting these numbers from? You must have been doing some good research. I can't imagine someone would just come on to the forums, make up some argument, and just throw out wild numbers in hopes it would back up their point, it just wouldn't make sense. So, yeah...mind sharing this research? I would love to read it.

Not sure why you're getting so uptight about this or taking it so literally lol - chill dude... I'm just using the 80%/20% numbers as an example from earlier in the thread where it was surmised that appx. 80% of the server population has still not completed T5. The exact numbers aren't really the point of my question - the gap between people able to complete certain levels of content vs. those who can not is the point. If there wasn't this gap between the "elite" and the "casuals", do MMORPGs even exist ?

[Krystal_]

wrong, you're overestimating the crowd, based on your own progression. There's lots of ppl that haven't even started Coil, much less cleared T5.
gear doesnt matter in the slightest, if you get hit by twisters. Most ppl die to divebombs or twisters (if they can even output enough DPS, to get conflags down -.-)
I wouldn't say 80% cant clear it, but it's def not 80% of server that can; not even half.
Maybe if they got rid of scourges, fireballs, death sentence, conflags, divebombs, twisters, and dreads, hatches, and halved Twins damage, maybe then 80% could clear it...

I guess Gilgamesh is just ahead or something... I rarely see T5 kill groups that AREN'T farm groups up in PF. Why don't they just get rid of T5 all together and hand people the gear from there? I'm sorry but if people are THAT bad that they can't beat it when 4-5 man groups can, then they are playing the wrong game because it only gets harder after that. And I110 items are bough with soldiery. Too many people want a carry. And I was only saying 80% based off what was said in an earlier post. I don't know the numbers I just know that a HUGE majority of people have beaten T5 on Gilgamesh at least.

Edit: And since they already said they wont make it easier, period, this argument is pointless. Get better at the game, gear your char, and try again. Thats all you can do at this point if you cant beat T5. Moving on

[zPanda]

They already said they will not make first coil easier. Period. They said it. Sorry to disappoint but it doesnt get much easier than it already is. As people have said, there's groups that 4-5 man T5 coil now because of how simple it is. If you can't beat coil with how simple it is now, you might consider a different game.

Edit: 80% of the server can pass T5. Not the other way around. 80%+ I would say at this point. If you can't beat T5 with i110 gear so easy to get (just have to put the time into hunting) than you will NEVER beat the SCoB turns because they are all about mechanics....

80% ?? lol. I really wish I could bet real money on this.

[Meenesfeja]

How many people have beaten T5 (before echo) without the use of the Twintania App (which clearly indicates death sentence, and makes avoiding Dive-bombs and Twisters much easier ? ) ?

Wait... There was such an app? O_o I thought that focus target is a way how to do it lol...

[zPanda]

Wait... There was such an app? O_o I thought that focus target is a way how to do it lol...

Yes there is - most people bragging about how easily they beat T5 will never *ever* admit to using it though. Look up a YouTube video of what this app actual does in-fight, and you'll see how much easier it makes the fight.