How about... an easy mode Coil?

[JustPlainLucas]

Wait, wait, wait! Here me out before you start calling me crazy! So, as we all know, Coil has Savage mode, where you don't get anything special for it, just bragging rights. But what about people who just want to experience what it's like to actually finish T5 without having to sacrifice their schedules hooking up with elite statics? The thought just crossed my mind that by paying for this game as a service, some people are essentially paying for something they'll never get to see. Either they simply aren't good enough to do it, or can't find good enough people to do it with. I suppose they could always pay a few million to get a carry, but I don't like extortion.

Anywho, for those hard workers who don't want to see people clear something they've trained for months on, fear not. YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING completing Coil Easy Mode. No gear, no achievements, no titles, nothing. People simply get to see the cutscenes, the stages, experience the mechanics without all the intense wiping. Think of it as kind of like a practice mode. In fact, this would actually make it easier for those training to attempt Coil for real.

I really can't think of a reason not to make an Easy Mode, except for the elitist attitude of, "They shouldn't be able to do what I can do", but really, they wouldn't be. O.O

[MilesSaintboroguh]

...You already have the first coil open to the duty finder plus people have the Echo buff if they wipe. How much easier could you make this!? And I never beat the first coil and I am saying this! You might as well just watch all the cut scenes on YouTube.

[Seoulstar]

...You already have the first coil open to the duty finder plus people have the Echo buff if they wipe. How much easier could you make this!? And I never beat the first coil and I am saying this! You might as well just watch all the cut scenes on YouTube.

So you never beat the first coil..but you're saying this. You know, it's not a good idea to talk about something you know little to nothing about lol..

[Ashkendor]

...You already have the first coil open to the duty finder plus people have the Echo buff if they wipe. How much easier could you make this!? And I never beat the first coil and I am saying this! You might as well just watch all the cut scenes on YouTube.

Even with 20% echo buff, T5 is not easy for the vast majority of people.

Echo buff in coil doesn't require a wipe, btw.

[Lyrinn]

Even with 20% echo buff, T5 is not easy for the vast majority of people.

I wonder, does that imply T5 is difficult for the average player, or is the average player really that bad? It's true echo doesn't help with one-shot mechanics like divebombs (into wall) and twisters, but it's also pathetic how many people don't know how to play their classes.

It's not an issue of elitism; many people who are "stuck" literally do not know how to play their classes. WHMs who spam Cure II through Infirmity and run out of mana before conflag phase ends, SCHs who never Adloquium or Lustrate and think Eos can do everything for them, DPS who hit under 150 DPS (calculated with an abacus and a stopwatch obviously), tanks who can't hold hate - it's a total mess.

[Ashkendor]

I wonder, does that imply T5 is difficult for the average player, or is the average player really that bad? It's true echo doesn't help with one-shot mechanics like divebombs (into wall) and twisters, but it's also pathetic how many people don't know how to play their classes.

I really don't know how to answer that. I guess it's kind of academic anyway. I just know that I've done PF's for T5 many many times and I've only cleared the damn thing once. Usually we end up with at least one person that swears they know what they're doing only to wipe us repeatedly at the first divebomb. I'm i107 PLD with 10k+ hps in T5 so it's not like I die easily, yet I've had so many healers that can't keep me standing. Maybe I just have really terrible luck with pugs. It makes me hate PF almost as much as I hate DF.

[Taruranto]

There is already an easy mode, it's called echo and iLevel 110 gears.

[Volcano]

No.

Most of the game is already handed to you.

NO.

[CGMidlander]

First coil is already pretty much trivialized at this point. (Don't have to do slime feeding in Turn 1 due to echo, Enrage Turn 2, Turn 3 is ezpz, Turn 4 mobs die super quickly due to echo, conflag and dreadknights are easy to kill in Turn 5 due to echo, tanks are much easier to keep alive due to echo...etc.)

Heck, there have been 4-man clears of Turn 5.

[CrowBlader]

ppl still wipe on this? <.<