How about... an easy mode Coil?

[skaterger]

What does this app do? We've cleared T5 w/o apps since all you have to do is look at markers/cast bars. I myself always do callouts in mumble tho (be it T5, T6, or T7).

It basically calls out the ability the boss uses in a mechanical voice, and you can configure it such that any ability that has a cast bar can be called out by Siri Ver 2. It works for Scob as well, Blight, voice, shriek, AF etc etc can all be set up. A vocal DBM, if you will.

[Barboron]

What does this app do? We've cleared T5 w/o apps since all you have to do is look at markers/cast bars. I myself always do callouts in mumble tho (be it T5, T6, or T7).

These apps are parsers, data gatherers. You can input some text for it to look out for. For example, you can set it to look out for "Magis suffers the effect of X." and once the parsers reads that from the chat log, the app will notify you with either text to speech or some alert.

[Radacci]

They already said they will not make first coil easier. Period. They said it. Sorry to disappoint but it doesnt get much easier than it already is. As people have said, there's groups that 4-5 man T5 coil now because of how simple it is. If you can't beat coil with how simple it is now, you might consider a different game.

Edit: 80% of the server can pass T5. Not the other way around. 80%+ I would say at this point. If you can't beat T5 with i110 gear so easy to get (just have to put the time into hunting) than you will NEVER beat the SCoB turns because they are all about mechanics....

wrong, you're overestimating the crowd, based on your own progression. There's lots of ppl that haven't even started Coil, much less cleared T5.
gear doesnt matter in the slightest, if you get hit by twisters. Most ppl die to divebombs or twisters (if they can even output enough DPS, to get conflags down -.-)
I wouldn't say 80% cant clear it, but it's def not 80% of server that can; not even half.
Maybe if they got rid of scourges, fireballs, death sentence, conflags, divebombs, twisters, and dreads, hatches, and halved Twins damage, maybe then 80% could clear it...
getting carried doesn't count obviously.

[Krystal_]

wrong, you're overestimating the crowd, based on your own progression. There's lots of ppl that haven't even started Coil, much less cleared T5.
gear doesnt matter in the slightest, if you get hit by twisters. Most ppl die to divebombs or twisters (if they can even output enough DPS, to get conflags down -.-)
I wouldn't say 80% cant clear it, but it's def not 80% of server that can; not even half.
Maybe if they got rid of scourges, fireballs, death sentence, conflags, divebombs, twisters, and dreads, hatches, and halved Twins damage, maybe then 80% could clear it...

I guess Gilgamesh is just ahead or something... I rarely see T5 kill groups that AREN'T farm groups up in PF. Why don't they just get rid of T5 all together and hand people the gear from there? I'm sorry but if people are THAT bad that they can't beat it when 4-5 man groups can, then they are playing the wrong game because it only gets harder after that. And I110 items are bough with soldiery. Too many people want a carry. And I was only saying 80% based off what was said in an earlier post. I don't know the numbers I just know that a HUGE majority of people have beaten T5 on Gilgamesh at least.

Edit: And since they already said they wont make it easier, period, this argument is pointless. Get better at the game, gear your char, and try again. Thats all you can do at this point if you cant beat T5. Moving on

[Radacci]

Twintania only has 1 insta-death mechanic which is easily avoidable by using focus target on her and seeing when she cats twister then then you.... run in a circle! lol not really a hard thing/ Divebombs hard? Stack in a hole, see a green marker, run up > run back. WOW that's difficult! With the echo buff Conflags and Dreds arent even an issue. Sorry but I dont feel bad for people who can't beat t5. And yes, I beat it before echo was added. And no, I didnt have APP when I beat it.

ppl dont stack properly, stand to far up, and mess up the entire party....or run into flames...
and like i said in prev post, even with ilv100 and echo, some groups dont get conflags down.

I guess Gilgamesh is just ahead or something... I rarely see T5 kill groups that AREN'T farm groups up in PF. Why don't they just get rid of T5 all together and hand people the gear from there? I'm sorry but if people are THAT bad that they can't beat it when 4-5 man groups can, then they are playing the wrong game because it only gets harder after that. And I110 items are bough with soldiery. Too many people want a carry. And I was only saying 80% based off what was said in an earlier post. I don't know the numbers I just know that a HUGE majority of people have beaten T5 on Gilgamesh at least.

Edit: And since they already said they wont make it easier, period, this argument is pointless. Get better at the game, gear your char, and try again. Thats all you can do at this point if you cant beat T5. Moving on

uh, there's a big difference of saying farm group, in PF...and actually farming twin...
i been in plenty of *farm groups* but it's actually twintania farming PCs.
and like i said in my edit, getting carried doesn't count; and there's plenty of ppl with carries.

[zPanda]

They already said they will not make first coil easier. Period. They said it. Sorry to disappoint but it doesnt get much easier than it already is. As people have said, there's groups that 4-5 man T5 coil now because of how simple it is. If you can't beat coil with how simple it is now, you might consider a different game.

Edit: 80% of the server can pass T5. Not the other way around. 80%+ I would say at this point. If you can't beat T5 with i110 gear so easy to get (just have to put the time into hunting) than you will NEVER beat the SCoB turns because they are all about mechanics....

80% ?? lol. I really wish I could bet real money on this.

[Krystal_]

Twintania only has 1 insta-death mechanic which is easily avoidable by using focus target on her and seeing when she cats twister then then you.... run in a circle! lol not really a hard thing/ Divebombs hard? Stack in a hole, see a green marker, run up > run back. WOW that's difficult! With the echo buff Conflags and Dreds arent even an issue. Sorry but I dont feel bad for people who can't beat t5. And yes, I beat it before echo was added. And no, I didnt have APP when I beat it.

[Surian]

I'd like this.

Not because "oh no coil is too hard", but because the whole instance creates nothing but douche players. I feel i'm pretty decently geared myself, but i simply dont want to deal with the players coil puts forth.

Having a place where casual people who dont care about the gear or achievements can just do them for the cutscenes and the fights would be great. I dont see how anyone can be against this.

The casual players will be happy because they can experience coil and finish the story behind it without getting shouted at or cursed at for no reason at all.
The elite players will be happy because they wont have filthy casual players in their runs looting on their gears if they do manage to win.

I dont see how anyone could be against this.

[Nama]

I find that quite alot of people that can't clear coil are also not really trying to do t5 having given up trying around 5-10% echo. Besides removing insta-death how can this fight be easier? Not to mention 2.4 is another ilv increase which will make coil1 even easier. Some also make the argument that being able to experience the fight is a reason to weaken said fight but that is altering the very experience people want in the first place. If mechanics are removed or the whole fight is made trivially easy then why not just skip it and go straight to cutscenes.

[xnonamex]

Well now that next coil will be coming out with next patch they should do something to get most of the ppl done with first coil at least imo. There are a lot of players who haven't done it (just for your reference I have done it quite some time ago with 5% echo because I didn't even try it much before they made it with echo and made my way up to t9) and SE rly needs to catch them up to speed. Because of course you can view coil as optional end game stuff. But it actually is quite vital to the story line in my opinion. And this is "old" content that we are talking about here. Especially once the patch 2.4 hits. None of the loots or rewards from that will be anything special so I really wouldn't mind that most average and bellow average players complete it.