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    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I wonder how the babies in there would have done with CoP.
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Why don't they just auto unlock those cutscenes from the previous Coil, for everyone after the next one comes out? Then those who weren't fortunate enough to defeat those turns can go watch them. I personally believe it's a load of bull that people want to only do Coil for the, "story". They want what other people have, but don't want to put forth the same effort.

    They want it for story - then give them the cutscene for free
    They want it for loot and story - do the normal version
    It's too hard - when subs start suffering terribly, SE will nerf it
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Why don't they just auto unlock those cutscenes from the previous Coil, for everyone after the next one comes out? Then those who weren't fortunate enough to defeat those turns can go watch them. I personally believe it's a load of bull that people want to only do Coil for the, "story". They want what other people have, but don't want to put forth the same effort.

    They want it for story - then give them the cutscene for free
    They want it for loot and story - do the normal version
    It's too hard - when subs start suffering terribly, SE will nerf it
    I actually think this would be a cool idea, It would be like tuning into a new episode every patch. Then again we have youtube, and some people have said they want to experience the story and battles. In the end this is not likely to happen and people will continue to agree to disagree. Think I am done arguing, I made my point.
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    Last edited by Vallug; 08-21-2014 at 07:05 AM.

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    Geneis Arcais
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Why don't they just auto unlock those cutscenes from the previous Coil, for everyone after the next one comes out? Then those who weren't fortunate enough to defeat those turns can go watch them. I personally believe it's a load of bull that people want to only do Coil for the, "story". They want what other people have, but don't want to put forth the same effort.

    They want it for story - then give them the cutscene for free
    They want it for loot and story - do the normal version
    It's too hard - when subs start suffering terribly, SE will nerf it
    They want to experience the story in an FF game?! What a bunch of entitled bitches! Acting like they had to pay to get this game and shit, the nerve.

    Again, no loot then wtf do these people gain over someone who runs Coil normal. As you all said, Coil is all ready easy. Sooo if some players can't clear the content to see the story, how the hell does them sacrificing equipment and currency make this a huge benefit to them? If someone would want to run any dungeon for absolutely no loot, go for it. Not my thing but if some story die-heads want to see it that bad it isn't going to somehow break my game mechanics.

    As an added bonus it gives new or more casual players a way to train in content without having assholes breathing down their neck or having people leave a practice group after a wipe. Which means if anyone is doing it in DF, there is 0 reason for someone to NOT KNOW the mechanics in Coil should a story mode be introduced. Practice to your hearts content without forcing the rest of the DF group to learn with you.
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    They want to experience the story in an FF game?! What a bunch of entitled bitches! Acting like they had to pay to get this game and shit, the nerve.
    I've said this many times already, Coil isn't main story. Did you do Shinryuu in FFV? How about the Weapons in VII? Ozma in IX? If they were too hard for you to beat, you just didn't beat them and lost out on that "story". Why would Coil be any different. You can see the MAIN story of the game without even so much at wink at Coil.

    Aside: I don't mean "you" personally, but as a general statement
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    They want to experience the story in an FF game?! What a bunch of entitled bitches! Acting like they had to pay to get this game and shit, the nerve.
    Love the "I PAY MY SUB" argument.

    You pay to play the game. If your online your playing. You do not play for god mode cheats so you can beat everything you feel your entitled to beat. I think warp programs and such cost extra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

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    VitaminMT's Avatar
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    Saa'li Detria
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    Hyperion
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    Fisher Lv 90
    I personally would've done a "story mode" coil that dropped no gear if it was available. Coil groups get kind of stressful sometimes!

    Even though I'm confident in my own abilities to challenge current or future endgame content, I'd still like to see a lower difficulty mode for the content be introduced, as long as it dropped no gear or inferior gear (IE: "weathered" allagan equipment that could not be upgraded).
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Yeah, the problem with BCoB Turn 5 at this point is simple: SCoB Turn 2 enraged mode. If the one shot mechanic from that fight was still forcing people to learn it then by the time they got to Turn 5 they'd have a better grasp of paying attention to things like debuff icons and quick reactions. Turns 1, 2 (enrage) and 4 with i100 and 20% echo don't prepare you for the smash in the face that you get from pushed back twisters and non-focused targeted mobs for cast bar awareness. The only solution would be nerf those attacks even more as no amount of echo is going to improve reaction time.
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I don't think something like this is needed for the first coil, what with echo and all, but maybe for the second coil and future releases? It's not like we don't already have some content with multiple difficulty levels, and if the 'Easy mode' didn't have weekly lock-out, it would encourage people to practice, so at least when they actually got to a normal mode run of the same content, they'd have a decent idea of how to handle it.
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Don't worry when they come out with the IOS version of the game in 20 years they will dumb it down for you people. (They did for 1-6)
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