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  1. #101
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    So you think that someone wearing a level 49 ring in a level 50 dungeon is being carried, then?

    I think that's extreme, and I don't think a change like this needs to be that extreme.
    No, but people wearing a full set of i45-49 crap in expert roulette and Syrcus Tower certainly are.

    Hell, I saw a bard using a freaking level 30 bow in there the other night.

    A level 49 ring would still spiritbond in a level 50 dungeon anyway. >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    With this change, your IL49 ring will bind in CM, but if you bring it to ST it might not bind at all.
    Ya, that's what I was getting at. You can still spiritbind an i49 ring in dungeons where it's appropriate to wear level 45-49 gear (i.e. stuff that requires item level 50-ish). I'm just tired and tripping up on explanations with actual level vs. item level. Syrcus Tower may be a level 50 dungeon (in that you have to be level 50 to enter it) but it also requires item level 70 to enter, so those level 49 accessories shouldn't SB there.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 08-19-2014 at 03:40 PM. Reason: Hit my daily post limit... going to bed. :/

  2. #102
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    Gonna start seeing a lot of Snow's bohemian coat dyed BLACK
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  3. #103
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    wicked-one's Avatar
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
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    I see the B-Rank adjustments mixed... especially the respawn I was thinking "OMFG, what the hell did ya think"
    But as the usual reward was taken out, this won´t escalate to a grindfest.

    I seems really "patchy" but better as the situation is right now.

    I also like that I can trade in those Primae/CT/Myth Stuff, as desynthesis is far away from being useful to me, I love being able to not throw this stuff away...

    Since i had a Bard with full Spiritbond Gear and an ~40ish Bow in BF-HM, i appreciate the adjustments in Spiritbonding, ... as confusing as it seems by now ^^

    For the rest of the Patch, nothing to significant...
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    Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...

  4. #104
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    A level 49 ring would still spiritbond in a level 50 dungeon anyway. >.>
    Not necessary. The game have a level 50 numerical cap, but this doesn't mean the level 50 Livia Sas Junius is of the same grade as the level 50 Siren in Pharos Sirus.

    Siren, technically is considered higher level than Livia. Just like how an avg IL110 character is stronger, or "higher level" than an avg IL70 character.

    You can tell this by noticing what kind of gear SB in which instance. IL70 gear does not bind in CM (where Livia is) but binds in Pharos Sirus.

    The new IL90 crafted gear binds in Syrus Tower, but not in Pharos Sirus.


    With this change, your IL49 ring will bind in CM, but if you bring it to ST it might not bind at all.
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  5. #105
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    Alukah Bast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    With this change, your IL49 ring will bind in CM, but if you bring it to ST it might not bind at all.
    And that's why it's a great change, now people have to do content with around the same ilvl as the gear they want to sb, no longer leeching off party members (unless it's crafter gear, still leeching).
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  6. #106
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    Yi Sug
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    still no crystal near the mist in lower la noscea
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by YISUG View Post
    still no crystal near the mist in lower la noscea
    Let's go to Swiftperch and steal their unnecessary aetheryte.
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  8. #108
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Syrcus Tower may be a level 50 dungeon (in that you have to be level 50 to enter it) but it also requires item level 70 to enter, so those level 49 accessories shouldn't SB there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    And that's why it's a great change, now people have to do content with around the same ilvl as the gear they want to sb, no longer leeching off party members (unless it's crafter gear, still leeching).
    I'm certainly welcoming this change, it is more of the materia conversion that bothers me

    Let me quote what I posted in another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    I am confused with what the patch notes meant here. I am pretty sure part of it meant that IL45-IL69 gears will have lesser chance to convert to Tier IV materia, in conjunction to the revised SB rate/rules to prevent people from wearing IL45-55 gears into ST and dungeons to SB as it caused quite some QQ and complaints in forums.

    But the notes seems to also hint that IL70 will no longer give a 100% Tier IV conversion rate, and probably only IL90 guarantees Tier IV.

    This would have a hit on the supply of Tier IV materia and cause it likely to rocket even higher.

    If true, it might also hint that there might not be Tier V materia in Patch 2.4 (since IL70 guarantees Tier IV, I was expecting IL90 to guarantee Tier V), or IL90 doesn't give 100% Tier V for the new IL110 crafted gears and cause creating and pentamelding IL110 gears extremely expensive than ever.
    That's going to be a little troublesome.
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  9. #109
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    Xellos2099's Avatar
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    Flame Colonel
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    Bard Lv 70
    I am beginning to feel the materia change is the reason of nt patch note till the date patch hit. The change to B rank is a huge disappoint but we can live with but they technically reduce the rate tier iv materia can be created, NOW that will create a huge uproar, sicnewe all see how insane SA and SM materia price are.
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  10. #110
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    Egg Soup
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    SB parties in Party Finder just quadrupled.
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