2.35 Patch Notes Discussion Thread

**Nayto** · 08-19-2014 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by ForteXX

Yep, even though its from an event, Lightning/Snow outfits were gifts, and shouldnt be dyed, same for i50 equipment (historical armor, not a replica like i90)

I feel bad for people who give you gifts.

Well tbh the relic stuff has 'augmentations' that allow it to be dyed due to said augmentation. Never heard anything about the lightning event items being lore specifically undyable.

**ForteXX** · 08-20-2014 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Nayto

Well tbh the relic stuff has 'augmentations' that allow it to be dyed due to said augmentation. Never heard anything about the lightning event items being lore specifically undyable.

Someone else's outfit given to you for helping them.

Originally Posted by Velox

Lightning can dye the miqo'te outfit in FFXIII, only makes sense if we can dye Lightning's outfit in FFXIV

Except that was a main part of that game, they said specifically for this one that if there was a storyline reason for it or it's look, it would -never- be dyeable. This is now being broken every patch.

**Velox** · 08-20-2014 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by ForteXX

Except that was a main part of that game, they said specifically for this one that if there was a storyline reason for it or it's look, it would -never- be dyeable. This is now being broken every patch.

True, but we must remember that FFXIV is SE's game and if they see that a rule is more profitable when overturned, they are most likely going to change it. Dye-able armor sets are becoming a big part of this game now too.

I personally don't mind it. It's not like I'm forced to dye everything. I have the freedom of choosing the original look or a custom look. Any game that offers more options is better than a game with fewer.

**Cutie_McSnuggles** · 08-20-2014 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by ForteXX

Except that was a main part of that game, they said specifically for this one that if there was a storyline reason for it or it's look, it would -never- be dyeable. This is now being broken every patch.

First off, source?

Secondly, what story point could possibly make something undyable? The only gear in the entire game I could see being undyable is GC specific gear. But otherwise EVERYTHING should be fare game.

**ForteXX** · 08-20-2014 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

First off, source?

Secondly, what story point could possibly make something undyable? The only gear in the entire game I could see being undyable is GC specific gear. But otherwise EVERYTHING should be fare game.

It's been a while.

As for story points, one example they gave is dungeon gear being undyable due to having a story behind why it is the way it is and why it's there (which I've actually yet to see a story behind these). For lightning, it's a gift for helping her. Artifact, it's a historical piece of equipment used by a immensely famous person to the job it's for.

It would be along the lines of someone becoming pope, then decided they wanted to change all the clothes to neon green. (Though I doubt popes use the exact same clothes, in FFs case, artifact armor is the exact clothing used by the person)

**Cutie_McSnuggles** · 08-20-2014 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by ForteXX

It's been a while.

As for story points, one example they gave is dungeon gear being undyable due to having a story behind why it is the way it is and why it's there (which I've actually yet to see a story behind these). For lightning, it's a gift for helping her. Artifact, it's a historical piece of equipment used by a immensely famous person to the job it's for.

It would be along the lines of someone becoming pope, then decided they wanted to change all the clothes to neon green. (Though I doubt popes use the exact same clothes, in FFs case, artifact armor is the exact clothing used by the person)

With arguments like that I can just say I found that dungeon gear, took it to the necessary crafting guild and said, "Make me something exactly like this, except green."

**Bixby** · 08-20-2014 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by ForteXX

As for story points, one example they gave is dungeon gear being undyable due to having a story behind why it is the way it is and why it's there (which I've actually yet to see a story behind these). For lightning, it's a gift for helping her. Artifact, it's a historical piece of equipment used by a immensely famous person to the job it's for.

It would be along the lines of someone becoming pope, then decided they wanted to change all the clothes to neon green. (Though I doubt popes use the exact same clothes, in FFs case, artifact armor is the exact clothing used by the person)

Those are all reasons why it would perhaps be in poor taste to dye something, not reasons why it would be impossible. Keeping players from doing something just because most people wouldn't has always struck me as really weak. We're adventurers. We're out here saving the effing world. We're exceptional. If anybody gets to do the things most people wouldn't, it's us, because we're not most people.

**Lamentations** · 08-21-2014 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=ForteXX;2375118]It's been a while.

As for story points, one example they gave is dungeon gear being undyable due to having a story behind why it is the way it is and why it's there (which I've actually yet to see a story behind these). For lightning, it's a gift for helping her. Artifact, it's a historical piece of equipment used by a immensely famous person to the job it's for. (you)

Yea see I agree with snuggles here, cant see what lore/legend whatever makes the gear undyeable, must be some long lost material that doesn't take dye or some dye that cant be washed out.

This entire point Yoshi has about dye and AF for instance being lore locked is ridiculous, there is no point at all in locking it out and then spending effort that could be spent on better content to then make content to unlock it, pointless.

Just let us dye gear or don't.

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