Hunt changes - for the better of us all

[Taruranto]

Uhm, hello?? Getting things at your own pace is now the right definition for the B rank, it is a great change for those who rather solo and do things with a friend or two.

You are playing a mmorpg, you are not supposed to solo things.

Except that if I read correctly, it only rewards seals if the B mob is in your daily hunt list, and it does not give you mythology and soldiery tome? As for the rank A and S, it does not receive any changes, so these will be hunt zerg by everyone else, and still gives you the most rewards for your buck?

Yes. B hunts are literally handled to you, no repop, no scounting, no competition. Your warp in a zone and they are there now. And you also want myth from them? That's not how it works.

Alliance hunt and zerg is the definition of "to have things handled to you" by simply following the pack and pray hope other group have the decency to wait for your alliance, which in most cases, not going to happen. And the name calling and blacklisting can begin again...

And yet, it seems you and many people couldn't get even an A, hmm..

[Kinseykinz]

I wouldn't blame hunt linkshells for these changes... most of the people on the forums who seemed to be complaining are minority of players who don't want to join hunting groups and would rather solo for their seals. If everyone had been as cooperative as the hunt groups, then I doubt SE would have made these changes. We're only getting this B-rank nerf because people opposed to hunt groups complained enough.

Fortunately, I got all the seals I needed, so I'm not affected by this. I feel bad though for people who thought this "fix" would keep them on even footing with people who've been in hunt groups. Most seals come from A ranks, but I'd say at least a quarter of all my seals have come from B ranks. If I were still hunting as hardcore as I was a couple weeks ago, I'd consider that a pretty substantial nerf.

Most people who complained did NOT complain because they wanted to solo these mobs. They complained because people were consuming the content in a way obviously not intended by SE. Now you can blame SE for their oversight (great rewards+little effort+fast earnings=lazy player bandwagon). But stop blaming people for saying 'uhh...this should probably be fixed' for saying something. 100's of people should never have been decending on any of these mobs, but especially Rank B's. The Daily hunts really SHOULD have rewarded more Allied Seals for the effort (the horde could probably kill 1-2 A ranks and 4-6 B ranks in the time me and my chocobo sat waiting on a 2 Allied Seal FATE to spawn).

The bigger complaints about the hunts though, were that they made many other activities in game pointless. Why do your daily roulettes if Hunts=better faster rewards? Why do Frontlines, if Hunts=better rewards? Why do CT?/ST?/Coil/EX primals...all this content, was being ignored by LOTS of people in favor of 'the Hunt'. And it was effecting those NOT hunting in the form of long queues and/or less people looking for groups in PF etc.

I don't blame people for riding the 'gravy train' Especially when most of us knew it WAS a gravy train, and a Nerf HAD to be incoming. (Really, folk like me saying it should be changed had far less effect on it actually being changed than on SE seeing people like you, and many others go from sub ilvl 100 to almost ilvl 110 on multiple jobs in less than a month and going ...well need to fix that a bit. They watch player trends/queues/progression in game (and probably in this contents case, even GM griefing reports), and based on that decide whether to open or close the faucets). But really, you have yourselves to blame far more than those of us who said 'uhhhh SE is this how you wanted hunts to go?'

Lastly, looking down on people who didn't abuse the hunts and saying 'you poor dears, I'm so glad I got what I wanted' doesn't matter. My gear is more than fine as is on my character. I'll earn my gear and it's upgrades in due time....and I didn't spend the last month doing content in a way that is about as exciting as watching paint dry to do it.

You are playing a mmorpg, you are not supposed to solo things.



Yes. B hunts are literally handled to you, no repop, no scounting, no competition. Your warp in a zone and they are there now. And you also want myth from them? That's not how it works.

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Yeah, see. On the one hand, yes I play an MMO to play with others. That does NOT mean I want to always play with others. But the bigger problem with hunts was never 'playing with others' I have had a blast playing with random other people when we would duo/trio/lowman a B mob we all happened across. Or the PLD I saved from certain doom who was out soloing a B rank and about to die...I didn't even engage the mob first, I healed the random pld I don't even know, then attacked...ask keeping him alive, and able to earn his seals from his find was more important to me than if I got full credit. The problem many people have with the hunts, is how many 'others' they have to play with. And/or the arbitrary rules each server/group came up with for killing each set of mobs. In my case, it was just too many people, and spamming medica II/cure III really isn't my idea of fun.

Still, I don't like that they are now serving b's up on a platter with no 'hunting' involved. I wish they would have kept them on their hourly timer, and then made all the other changes.

[Luvbunny]

You are playing a mmorpg, you are not supposed to solo things.

If I recall, you are playing FF14, which encourages OPTIONS, and pretty much a "solo" mmorpg your first time around to level 50 with a few dungeons and trials that you cannot solo on your own. And this is why this game to me is great, it gives people OPTIONS on how they want to consume the contents. Until Hunt pretty much render any other options pointless since the only activity with the most reward for your time is to hop in the HUNT ZERG train, or you will be left behind.

And if you consider "Hunting Party" is your way of interacting with others as a form of social interaction, then you are delusional. It is a mindless zerg party, where is the next pop, warp, PLEASE HOLD!!!! INCOMING!!! OMW!! DON'T KILL, RESET!! Zero tactics or strategy involved, just kill it fast, move to the next A ranks. I rather have everyone forced to do some sort of "group teamwork activities" that require some semblance of tactics.

Yes. B hunts are literally handled to you, no repop, no scounting, no competition. Your warp in a zone and they are there now. And you also want myth from them? That's not how it works.

I don't see why you can't get the same rewards as before, you cannot spam the B rank anymore, since it does not give ANY rewards if they are not on your daily list. Killing five of these a day is not going to be the most effective way to farm tomes, but those little rewards could help a lot of new players catching up. If the real reasons for Hunt is to help returning players to catch up with their basic entry level 90 gears, then they should reinstate the tomes reward for B rank. It will supplement other means of getting tomes and helping the casuals to catch up a bit faster so you don't have to deal with level 65-72 trying to kill content that are too difficult.

And yet, it seems you and many people couldn't get even an A, hmm..

This is where you are wrong, I have no problem getting A's, and the reward is just beyond amazing, it's broken.... It was not as bad before since you have the B's mob to stall some party. Now the A's and S's are the only options, and everyone will just do these, only the casuals will do B's now. If the Hunt Train for A rank was crowded before, now it's exploding to eternity with more people will feel entitled and demand everyone to wait for their alliance of 24 people as well...