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    Player
    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I don't like the changes. I'll make less seals with these new changes.
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    What I am wondering is, they did not change the reward on soldiery and mythology on the B rank? Or B rank now only reward seals if you have it as one of your daily or elite - but does not give you anything else? Does the A and S still reward the mythology and soldiery tomes? Because if A and S is not changed at all, then now everyone will solely focus on these, and do nothing but these, and still causing tons of grieving, cursing, and just toxic yell and shout for pulling early. Though now 24 people can come at once, unless another group was there first and decided to kill that A rank NOW!!
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The Bs were changed cause everyone kept zergging them. Even right until the servers went offline tonight, I seen many large groups of people swarm B marks, so it was obviously a problem if Square had to change how you get rewarded for a B mark.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I want the title that requires me to kill 300 Bs. now it seems impossible unless I want to waste my time killing them for 0 seal.
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    Tillia Carbunkle
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I want the title that requires me to kill 300 Bs. now it seems impossible unless I want to waste my time killing them for 0 seal.
    But now they respawn in seconds! So you can theoretically get that title within a day :P
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I want the title that requires me to kill 300 Bs. now it seems impossible unless I want to waste my time killing them for 0 seal.
    If the B only counts if you have the mark bill for it (which would be pants on head retarded), getting the achievement seems like the exact opposite of impossible considering they respawn every 5 seconds.
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    Thayos Redblade
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Called casuals and non hunt ls players cry babies while you were at it. I wonder who's crying now? Some got greedy and nasty with the hunts which lead into other things getting neglected.
    I wouldn't blame hunt linkshells for these changes... most of the people on the forums who seemed to be complaining are minority of players who don't want to join hunting groups and would rather solo for their seals. If everyone had been as cooperative as the hunt groups, then I doubt SE would have made these changes. We're only getting this B-rank nerf because people opposed to hunt groups complained enough.

    Fortunately, I got all the seals I needed, so I'm not affected by this. I feel bad though for people who thought this "fix" would keep them on even footing with people who've been in hunt groups. Most seals come from A ranks, but I'd say at least a quarter of all my seals have come from B ranks. If I were still hunting as hardcore as I was a couple weeks ago, I'd consider that a pretty substantial nerf.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thayos View Post
    I wouldn't blame hunt linkshells for these changes... most of the people on the forums who seemed to be complaining are minority of players who don't want to join hunting groups and would rather solo for their seals. If everyone had been as cooperative as the hunt groups, then I doubt SE would have made these changes. We're only getting this B-rank nerf because people opposed to hunt groups complained enough.

    Fortunately, I got all the seals I needed, so I'm not affected by this. I feel bad though for people who thought this "fix" would keep them on even footing with people who've been in hunt groups. Most seals come from A ranks, but I'd say at least a quarter of all my seals have come from B ranks. If I were still hunting as hardcore as I was a couple weeks ago, I'd consider that a pretty substantial nerf.
    Actually, I bet SE would still change it. In one of the recent interviews Yoshi even said what was being done was completely not intended and they planned to make changes based on that.
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    Colette Pascal
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Hunts were never meant to be giant gear piñatas that everyone fought over. They were supposed to be rewarding, yes, but they were also supposed to be challenging. Mobs of 30 people decimating B ranks in 10 seconds or less was not what Yoshi had envisioned.

    My favorite analogy for hunts (pre-patch) is that they were Walmart Black Friday sales for gear. Giant mobs of people fighting and bickering over cheap stuff. Now we are seeing the sense of entitlement come out. Basic human nature, really.

    Why change the hunts? How about because the hunt experience has not really played out the way the game's creators intended? How about for the sake of game balance? You think your desire to spend all day long farming B's for 5 seals a pop is a better reason to leave it the way it is?
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    Hunts were never meant to be giant gear piñatas that everyone fought over. They were supposed to be rewarding, yes, but they were also supposed to be challenging. Mobs of 30 people decimating B ranks in 10 seconds or less was not what Yoshi had envisioned.
    What is puzzling is that SE just do not get why the HUNT was totally broken in the first place. People do these because the reward is just way too good, beyond good, it is FANTASTIC, and for hardcore players, it is beyond AMAZING to simply zerg these baby jesus to oblivion for the piñata candies to upgrade all their gears to 110.

    It's great they change the way B rank works since now, casuals have some way to earn seals without having to rely on HUNT party zerg-a-thon, though only rewarding them with seals is counterproductive since it's not helping them getting closer to their basic level 90 gears. The A and S rank is still a problem - they should simply eliminate tomes reward from these as well. And put daily seals reward to duty roulette. This will encourage ALL players to go do more duty roulette since it will boost their daily allied seals intake. The casuals get more boost to help them catch up to 110, the hardcore will be more than happy to add more seals, and more people will at least do daily roulette and help lessen the "OMG Gotta Do A Train Hunt!!" mentality.
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