Hunt changes - for the better of us all

[silentwindfr]

yeah, these changes were made to please the people who don't hunt or can't hunt, instead of helping people who enjoyed the content.

most of the people enjoying the hunt (i don't talk of the one doing it because it was the best way to get almost everything) do like it mostly because it's instant gratification. no risk involved since done in zerg and maximum reward for the small fight.

people talking of the community or competition only do this for what? the reward... stop trying to make yourself look like a saint. they are like everybody that want them shinies...
what amazed me, it's the fact that a loooooot of the people that love hunt, are actually part of the people that hate the most the FATE, when all they do it's FATE under the form of the hunt.

other point, competition into a game like path of exil with it ladder it's good, but competition into FF14 are...sorry to say this non existant. competition means everybody have the same chance, start with the same setup... here is not the case, depending of the your connection time, the number of people into your ls hunt and such you will be the best. when actually it's your ls hunt that is the best not you! is not a competition it's simply a bragging rights feature!

by the way, this change don't solve anything, they don't listen to the people, they simply want to stick to them plan, raid > all... when it was possible to do stuff very nice with the hunting. but no, open world lover was there crying, we need open world stuff in a world over population and too small for the population per server. they have wanted nm back, when this feature was always the source of drama and cheat.

no use of the leves, faction leves or fate already present for make it more deep. nah, let's stick to the plan to make it an activity with instant gratification (by allowing zerg)

[Luvbunny]

There will be too many people going to each A because they will be more rare and people will pull sooner since waiting for everyone will result in getting less then full credit. More people on less monsters = early pulls/rage or not getting full credit. That doesn't seem like a good idea to me

Yeah the developer does not seem to get the real problem here. It's great that the B rank now is the perfect solution for casual and solo players to do things at their own pace and leisure - a most welcomed change - except that these B marks should also reward mytho and soldiery tome just like before since you cannot spam the B's anymore.

The A and S rank is the big problem, it was zerged to oblivion before and now, it will be even worse since this is the only options to get the most seals per kill.... and on top of that, it gives you boatload of tomes, rendering duty finder, once again, useless. No one in their right mind will do duty finder once the A train starts, and now you have to deal with at least 24 people x 2 on alliance - its bad enough to wait for your entire alliance to arrive - now you have to worry the other group with 8 or 16 people will pull first because they want to hop on the next A mark before some other group kills it.

[VicViperion]

From what I've read, they completely killed casual hunting as a group activity while simultainously making the community at large zerg rush those A's even harder than ever before. This doesn't seem like a change for the better at all. In fact, all it seems like it will do, is inspire more vitriol and venom than ever before as people fight over getting those A's and S's, while B rank hunting just became, well, not very profitable at all compared to what it once was. This seems like a poorly thought out change at best, and a thinly veiled attempt to slow down the acquisition of gear by throttling the seal/myth flow. How anyone can be happy with this, I'll never know. Maybe people just enjoy grind taking even longer than it normally does.

[atomicdeath]

From what I've read, they completely killed casual hunting as a group activity while simultainously making the community at large zerg rush those A's even harder than ever before. This doesn't seem like a change for the better at all.

I disagree, the reason the zerg was so bad is because the solo path was not a real option to get the shineys. I'll bet less people will do grouped hunting because of the new viable solo path.

[VicViperion]

I disagree, the reason the zerg was so bad is because the solo path was not a real option to get the shineys. I'll bet less people will do grouped hunting because of the new viable solo path.

But it isn't viable at all, really. Now it's limited. Now you're getting less than you once did, in multiple ways. They restricted it, and while yes, now you can do it solo, you're also getting nowhere near the worth and value of your time spent that you used to. All it took to hunt was a 5 second glance at Party Finder, and if you got tired or had little time, you hopped out at your leisure.

Coupled with the fact this change will make hunting for A's and S's even more vicious, and you've got a end result that really is going to satisfy a very, very small section of people trying to solo group content in a game based on playing with groups, while making everyone else quite discontent.

[atomicdeath]

But it isn't viable at all, really. Now it's limited. Now you're getting less than you once did, in multiple ways. They restricted it, and while yes, now you can do it solo, you're also getting nowhere near the worth and value of your time spent that you used to. All it took to hunt was a 5 second glance at Party Finder, and if you got tired or had little time, you hopped out at your leisure.

Coupled with the fact this change will make hunting for A's and S's even more vicious, and you've got a end result that really is going to satisfy a very, very small section of people trying to solo group content in a game based on playing with groups, while making everyone else quite discontent.

Lets say you grinded hunts with groups and did your hunt bills. How long would it take you to get enough sand and oil to upgrade a full set to 110?

How long does it take to buy all the i100 gear with soldiery?

Its still unbalanced.

[IveraIvalice]

I disagree, the reason the zerg was so bad is because the solo path was not a real option to get the shineys. I'll bet less people will do grouped hunting because of the new viable solo path.

It's possible. I like the changes that make daily marks more rewarding but I don't like that they made Bs be up all the time but yet they're useless. If I find one out int the field I will have no reason to kill it unless it's the one monster I need once. There's just a lot more of nothing out there now and if it doesn't make people take a break from the hunting (parties and grinding) then I only see those people suffering from too many players and too little As

[giantslayer]

I love how people are complaining that they can't get 5 seals for killing a B anymore. Did you miss the part where the daily marks are now worth either 4 or 10 a pop? Dailies are now worth about the same or twice as much as B's were before.

[VicViperion]

I love how people are complaining that they can't get 5 seals for killing a B anymore. Did you miss the part where the daily marks are now worth either 4 or 10 a pop? Dailies are now worth about the same or twice as much as B's were before.

I think you missed the part where someone who had a few spare hours to grind out running around with friends could make far, far more than the mere pittance of 4 to 10 marks on something locked behind a daily restriction wall.

[Taruranto]

I think you missed the part where someone who had a few spare hours to grind out running around with friends could make far, far more than the mere pittance of 4 to 10 marks on something locked behind a daily restriction wall.

You can thanks people on the forum for that.

You won't get any myth or many seals from B like before, but hey, NOW YOU CAN SOLO IT AND THEY'LL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU!

I feel sorry for ppl who still have to get their Novus.

I ready got my sand and minions + fc item. I still have some seals to spare that I'll use to buy seed for my FC.