How exactly is FFXIV like WoW?

[TouchandFeel]

Everyone references WoW because it was the game that really brought the MMORPG genre into the mainstream and was the first MMO that many people played, it was in no way the progenitor of MMO's as I would more give the title of father of the modern MMO to Everquest as that really defined how MMO's have been structured and built since and if you want to go even farther back in the evolution, Dungeons and Dragons Pen n' Paper>MUD's>EQ. WoW just simplified, "streamlined" (for better or worse) and popularized the genre.

Also while public events were popularized in Rift and Guild Wars 2, Warhammer Online did them before either of those.
(Ah, beat me to it while I was typing!)

[Velox]

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Actually, Everquest borrowed a lot of its structure from Ultima Online, which is credited as being the first "true" MMO (meaning element standards that persist to today). All current and past MMOs owe their existence to UO.

[TouchandFeel]

Actually, Everquest borrowed a lot of its structure from Ultima Online, which is credited as being the first "true" MMO (meaning element standards that persist to today). All current and past MMOs owe their existence to UO.

That is very true, UO was the first MMO and it did heavily influence EQ but I still feel that EQ was the first modern MMO (a different distinction in my mind) as it was the first fully 3D MMO and introduced many of the basic MMO trappings that we find today. While UO had some of the stuff that has persisted to MMO's today, I feel that the basic structure of MMO's now is more akin to EQ. All in all, I feel that both our statements are true.
So I guess it would go more like DnD PnP>MUD's>UO>EQ>WoW

[Sapphic]

That is very true, UO was the first MMO and it did heavily influence EQ but I still feel that EQ was the first modern MMO (a different distinction in my mind) as it was the first fully 3D MMO and introduced many of the basic MMO trappings that we find today. While UO had some of the stuff that has persisted to MMO's today, I feel that the basic structure of MMO's now is more akin to EQ. All in all, I feel that both our statements are true.
So I guess it would go more like DnD PnP>MUD's>UO>EQ>WoW

Atually, UO was and wasn't the first MMORPG XD It was the first in a way because with UO was the term MMORPG first used, taken from MMOG coined in the mid 90s. The first graphical MMO was Neverwinter nights in 91, followed in mid 90s by Nexus: Kingdom of the winds (Korean), Meridian 59 and the Realm online, Ultima online followed a year after in '97. Lineage in '98 then EQ went live in '99 the same year as Asherons call.

All of those are still available to play except NWN, as a side note, Meridian 59 was the first 3D MMORPG.

History lesson complete XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEGKVUzHlGk
The first MMO

[TouchandFeel]

History lesson complete XD

You are most definitely correct and I concede to you.

Definitely a derp on my part, especially since I played a number of those here and there like NWN and Asheron's Call, yet I completely forgot about them.

[Edli]

Actually, Everquest borrowed a lot of its structure from Ultima Online, which is credited as being the first "true" MMO (meaning element standards that persist to today). All current and past MMOs owe their existence to UO.

Lets just agree that games borrow from what came before them and built upon it.

[Mjytresz]

Everyone references WoW because it was the game that really brought the MMORPG genre into the mainstream and was the first MMO that many people played, it was in no way the progenitor of MMO's as I would more give the title of father of the modern MMO to Everquest as that really defined how MMO's have been structured and built since and if you want to go even farther back in the evolution, Dungeons and Dragons Pen n' Paper>MUD's>EQ. WoW just simplified, "streamlined" (for better or worse) and popularized the genre.

Also while public events were popularized in Rift and Guild Wars 2, Warhammer Online did them before either of those.
(Ah, beat me to it while I was typing!)

Yea, X came before Y so it influenced all further developments.
Regardless if X was relatively unknown in comparison and Y still holds nearly all the titles for MMOs these days.

Totally legit argument bro, tell me more.