What is a Bard?

[Black91CRX]

If you aren't singing, you aren't doing your job. That's my opinion on it.

[Maero]

Experienced healers and such know how to manage mp same as dps with tp, etc.
Songs are there to be sung if or when needed not always a must needed.
Army's Patheon i maybe only ever used it 3 or 4 times as Bard. Twice in a few of my first ever T4 runs back in the day as warior tank asked for it
and maybe once when i was not paying attention to my tp so was out, lol.
Mage's Ballad and Foe Requiem by far are the most useful songs and i also agree some comments people make about Bard being a "support" class, well why do i out dps them even while i have a song active, lol (mainly drgs make those comments at Bards usually)

Foe is used when either a blm or smn are in the group i don't think windbite or venemeous bite is effected, however i truly believe Holy from a whm is

[Squa11_Leonhart]

If you aren't singing, you aren't doing your job. That's my opinion on it.

If you're always singing, you don't know how to do your job.

[Black91CRX]

If you're always singing, you don't know how to do your job.

Nobody said anything about always. But I see bards go through entire instances/dungeons without singing once. That's wrong.

[Maero]

Nobody said anything about always. But I see bards go through entire instances/dungeons without singing once. That's wrong.

Not really, it is group dependant, some healers don't ever require mp same as tanks and such, and dps should learn how to control so that they do not run out of tp.
Singing is there if needed, some groups healers actually prefer Bard to strictly dps

[RinchanNau]

Not really, it is group dependant, some healers don't ever require mp same as tanks and such, and dps should learn how to control so that they do not run out of tp.
Singing is there if needed, some groups healers actually prefer Bard to strictly dps

Can still put up foe's for healer DPS even in a 4 man party w/ no caster DPS. And swiftsong between pulls.

[Kaze3434]

Not really, it is group dependant, some healers don't ever require mp same as tanks and such, and dps should learn how to control so that they do not run out of tp.

tp control is absolutely needed, but in a fight that has near 100% up time on a boss, tp will become low on everyone.(tanks included, or rather, even more so because they have no way to get a massive amount back fast) from my t8 pugs, i have been praised for knowing when people needed tp. mp was almost never needed unless someone died. tho this is just one instance.

[Black91CRX]

Not really, it is group dependant, some healers don't ever require mp same as tanks and such, and dps should learn how to control so that they do not run out of tp.

Well, not everyone I meet in DF/PF plays their job at 100% efficiency. To expect that is ridiculous. So I'm happy to lend a hand, not scold a person for playing below top tier.

[Daeana]

I personally do a lot of solo stuff and Queue Up with Duty Roulette and Duty Finder.

I agree with EVERYONE's Statements.

Mages Ballad \ Army's Paeon / = MP and TP regeneration, is for specific situation's ("fight is taking way too long or a healer is downed and needs MP.")

Foe Requime = Reduces all enemy elemental resistance by 10% Does this effect Windbite and other attacks that have elemental effects? Should this ALWAYS be on even if there is no caster in your group? I am asking cause I don't know?

WE hardly ever see and Bard LIMIT BREAK cause it is the ONLY DPS CLASS with out a DPS limit break. Like when you have two bard and a healer in a DUTY FINDER quest.

I also think that if your MP is full your not using your job to its fullest. and I do see the appeal to having your brd with the ability to have and oh shit button in a party. But if you have two healers already isn't a 3rd a waste?

[Daeana]

With only 3 roles I feel that bard doesn't contribute to the "ROLE OF DPS" like other class do. That we are Lacking in your OUTPUT and DPS EFFECTIVENESS do to our skill set that is designed to Protect or SAFEGAURD our Group in What IF situations. I am not against our skills either. I JUST FEEL LIKE I DON'T BELONG to DPS. because of my skill set.

That my design is flawed in a DPS world. BUT I AM THE ONLY CLASS that can do the Supportive skills that I do right now.